I didn't post much, mostly a lurker, but I was a member of the old Abe forum for many years, and it was always there for me when I needed inspiration. I had my favorites, people and posts. I won't name the people, but posts like that money thread with thousands of pages, that was particularly succulent! If I'd known the forum would disappear I would have copied the whole thing and had it published into a book.
My main critique of the old forum is that members were not permitted to discuss anything that was not connected directly to an explicit AH teaching, so it was weird and cult-like behavior from the mods at times. Which is why I rarely posted, since I draw inspiration from anywhere and anyone, if it feels good. Which is all that AH is truly about, our own guidance!
So hopefully this forum is a bit looser, I guess I'll find out, but for now, I have much gratitude for whoever made this happen, and I hope some other long time members find there way back here also.
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Hello, nice to meet you
I wholeheartedly agree with you, that it would be nice to have an open-minded forum, since that's also in alignment with the Abraham teachings. I still like Abraham the most currently, because the channelings feel very pure to me. But I also find lots of inspiration from other teachings. And sometimes it's helpful to hear the same teachings in a different variant to get their meaning.
So I'd say, let's believe that this will become a fantastic Abraham forum with lots of wonderful co-creators
I wholeheartedly agree with you, that it would be nice to have an open-minded forum, since that's also in alignment with the Abraham teachings. I still like Abraham the most currently, because the channelings feel very pure to me. But I also find lots of inspiration from other teachings. And sometimes it's helpful to hear the same teachings in a different variant to get their meaning.
So I'd say, let's believe that this will become a fantastic Abraham forum with lots of wonderful co-creators
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I love your thoughts! I like AH the most, too. When I used to try and help people on Reddit, I would always rec AH because it's the most direct, for beginners and experts alike. It was not very popular.
My experience was, many people didn't like AH when they are wanting to manifest from lack. I came to realize that those who don't like AH seem to be people who either don't want to do "the work", or else they want LOA to be like magic or religion, they think the rituals and rules are what causes the manifestations, rather than it being all about feeling good as one's foolproof guidance system. AH is just so sound, so simple, and so direct when they say essentially "live your life according to what feels the most joyful to you". People who are desperate to manifest really, really hate that. I mean, the horror! Imagine having to FEEL GOOD for no reason.
Interestingly, any other teacher who has any kind of credibility IMO regarding LOA, if I research their teachings, they are always based on AH. I know the Hicks, prior to Abraham, were heavily influenced by Jane Roberts and Seth, which I've read thoroughly, and AH delivers the same essential message but in a more modern and more easily understood format.
When one has a background in AH teachings, it's so easy to find the gems in any other system, discarding the individual guru schtick. Fabulous!
My experience was, many people didn't like AH when they are wanting to manifest from lack. I came to realize that those who don't like AH seem to be people who either don't want to do "the work", or else they want LOA to be like magic or religion, they think the rituals and rules are what causes the manifestations, rather than it being all about feeling good as one's foolproof guidance system. AH is just so sound, so simple, and so direct when they say essentially "live your life according to what feels the most joyful to you". People who are desperate to manifest really, really hate that. I mean, the horror! Imagine having to FEEL GOOD for no reason.
Interestingly, any other teacher who has any kind of credibility IMO regarding LOA, if I research their teachings, they are always based on AH. I know the Hicks, prior to Abraham, were heavily influenced by Jane Roberts and Seth, which I've read thoroughly, and AH delivers the same essential message but in a more modern and more easily understood format.
When one has a background in AH teachings, it's so easy to find the gems in any other system, discarding the individual guru schtick. Fabulous!
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As someone who has lived in negative vibrations for most of their life, including having so-called mental diseases, I get that the Abraham teachings can be tough to put into practice from a negative starting point or lack.
And yes, I can confirm, getting told by Abraham to 'just feel good' while your mind is screaming at you to be prepared for devastating disappointment and flooding you with thoughts of fear and despair, can make you feel horrible. And like a complete failure
Eventually I found out that the only things that really worked for me and that I had access to were meditation and climbing up on the EGS. Things like making peace and soothing myself were something I had no knowledge of and no practice in. In my opinion they are prerequisites, if you want to use the Abraham techniques properly.
I'm sure by now I've sent many rockets of desires, that Abraham or any other similar teachers will make teachings especially for people in the lower vibrations. I'd love to have them accompany people that for example have withdrawn from society and are struggling with their overly negative mindsets. People who want to get back into higher vibrations and who you won't find in the hot seat, normally.
I haven't delved much into the origins of the loa teachings, so I can't say much about that. But I also feel that it's easier to understand other people's loa teachings when you know about Abraham. And it's easier to recognize beliefs that come from the limited human perspective, so I can just ignore them and focus on the parts that resonate with me
And yes, I can confirm, getting told by Abraham to 'just feel good' while your mind is screaming at you to be prepared for devastating disappointment and flooding you with thoughts of fear and despair, can make you feel horrible. And like a complete failure
Eventually I found out that the only things that really worked for me and that I had access to were meditation and climbing up on the EGS. Things like making peace and soothing myself were something I had no knowledge of and no practice in. In my opinion they are prerequisites, if you want to use the Abraham techniques properly.
I'm sure by now I've sent many rockets of desires, that Abraham or any other similar teachers will make teachings especially for people in the lower vibrations. I'd love to have them accompany people that for example have withdrawn from society and are struggling with their overly negative mindsets. People who want to get back into higher vibrations and who you won't find in the hot seat, normally.
I haven't delved much into the origins of the loa teachings, so I can't say much about that. But I also feel that it's easier to understand other people's loa teachings when you know about Abraham. And it's easier to recognize beliefs that come from the limited human perspective, so I can just ignore them and focus on the parts that resonate with me
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Thank you very much for the broader perspective. I wonder how it is possible to reach someone very low on the EGS and offer hope, what words could bridge that gap.
For a very long time (years), I wanted to write a book directly addressing LOA and people in prison. A book for the incarcerated, because I thought if I could help prisoners, who IMO must feel the least amount of hope and also probably have massive amounts of resistance and be very low on the EGS, that would mean I truly understood everything about LOA. I help myself by helping others. So I started that book, many times, but eventually I realized that I was just saying what AH has already said.
But after reading what you wrote, I might pick that idea up again. You bring up a point I hadn't considered, which is that people struggling with mental diseases are experiencing themselves in a very different way, and I wouldn't be qualified even remotely to help with that, but that doesn't mean I can't write my book and it would help who it helps.
It's really true that the LOA teachings could feel dismissive, out of touch, even cruel, to someone who is struggling deeply. Thank you for bringing that up!
My experience was that I was always in search of Truth, like "truth or bust" so even when I was super negative in my core, I would think "this has got to be wrong, this can't be the truth!" (the way I was thinking or what I was believing). I always felt like I was on a ladder climbing, and my whole goal was to climb, so I only fought the demons when I absolutely had to.
I LOVED the EGS. Still do! Always and forever. If I could only take away one thing from AH, it would be the EGS. It's so fantastic, no matter how bad things are, that I can find where I am, find where I want to be, and close the gap.
To see the hierarchy of emotions laid out like that, neutral, outside of me where the feelings didn't overwhelm like the internal, it made it impossible for me to stay stuck at any lower level. To stay at a lower level would be like me screaming in my car at a gas station "I'm lost!!" when the GPS is sitting right there telling me where my destination is, how to get there, all I have to do is believe it and head in that direction!
Happy Friday! I hope you have a fantastic weekend!
For a very long time (years), I wanted to write a book directly addressing LOA and people in prison. A book for the incarcerated, because I thought if I could help prisoners, who IMO must feel the least amount of hope and also probably have massive amounts of resistance and be very low on the EGS, that would mean I truly understood everything about LOA. I help myself by helping others. So I started that book, many times, but eventually I realized that I was just saying what AH has already said.
But after reading what you wrote, I might pick that idea up again. You bring up a point I hadn't considered, which is that people struggling with mental diseases are experiencing themselves in a very different way, and I wouldn't be qualified even remotely to help with that, but that doesn't mean I can't write my book and it would help who it helps.
It's really true that the LOA teachings could feel dismissive, out of touch, even cruel, to someone who is struggling deeply. Thank you for bringing that up!
My experience was that I was always in search of Truth, like "truth or bust" so even when I was super negative in my core, I would think "this has got to be wrong, this can't be the truth!" (the way I was thinking or what I was believing). I always felt like I was on a ladder climbing, and my whole goal was to climb, so I only fought the demons when I absolutely had to.
I LOVED the EGS. Still do! Always and forever. If I could only take away one thing from AH, it would be the EGS. It's so fantastic, no matter how bad things are, that I can find where I am, find where I want to be, and close the gap.
To see the hierarchy of emotions laid out like that, neutral, outside of me where the feelings didn't overwhelm like the internal, it made it impossible for me to stay stuck at any lower level. To stay at a lower level would be like me screaming in my car at a gas station "I'm lost!!" when the GPS is sitting right there telling me where my destination is, how to get there, all I have to do is believe it and head in that direction!
Happy Friday! I hope you have a fantastic weekend!
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I always thought, when I am able to successfully manifest my goals, I would write a book or blog in order to inspire others who deal with similar things that I have experienced. But now that I've made progress I see that my path was very individually with lots of different techniques and changes all around. I wouldn't know what to recommend others,now haha.
If you're inspired to write a book, then go for it It surely will get to the people, that find it helpful and encouraging!
Thank you! I wish you an amazing weekend!
That's a really good question. Maybe someone who's in high vibrations like Abraham knows for every person the best way to get through to them. But if a person is too low, I think there's not much you can do other than seeing them as the powerful creator they are. And letting your high vibration influence them.I wonder how it is possible to reach someone very low on the EGS and offer hope, what words could bridge that gap.
If you're inspired to write a book, then go for it It surely will get to the people, that find it helpful and encouraging!
That sounds great. I wish I had thoughts like this, that would have helped me to climb up into a good feeling place, way earlier. But I guess we all have different mindsets. And eventually everyone can find their way out and back into alignment with their Inner Being.My experience was that I was always in search of Truth, like "truth or bust" so even when I was super negative in my core, I would think "this has got to be wrong, this can't be the truth!" (the way I was thinking or what I was believing). I always felt like I was on a ladder climbing, and my whole goal was to climb, so I only fought the demons when I absolutely had to.
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To see the hierarchy of emotions laid out like that, neutral, outside of me where the feelings didn't overwhelm like the internal, it made it impossible for me to stay stuck at any lower level. To stay at a lower level would be like me screaming in my car at a gas station "I'm lost!!" when the GPS is sitting right there telling me where my destination is, how to get there, all I have to do is believe it and head in that direction!
Agreed. The EGS has helped me a lot, too.I LOVED the EGS. Still do! Always and forever. If I could only take away one thing from AH, it would be the EGS. It's so fantastic, no matter how bad things are, that I can find where I am, find where I want to be, and close the gap.
Thank you! I wish you an amazing weekend!
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I too hope that we can incorporate more authors ideas in this forum. I find it really thrilling and aligning when I find another author, especially a secular or scientific author, who is making statements that sound almost exactly like what Abraham would say! For example, I've been reading 'Change Your Beliefs, Change Your Life' by Nick Hall Ph.D. and there's several quotes that really stand out as Abe-ish so far...404NotFound wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:29 pm members were not permitted to discuss anything that was not connected directly to an explicit AH teaching
"Negative emotions reflect the perception of unmet needs." (my emphasis). - It's the idea that your needs are unmet that hurts, when actually, vibrationally, all your needs have been met already, there is nothing you lack because you are all powerful!
"People do things for two reasons, to avoid pain and to experience pleasure." - Just like how Abraham says we are all just trying to feel better!
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Hello 404NotFound,
you are most welcome and thank you for being a part of this forum.
In the main forum categories, there should be a focus on the abraham hicks teachings, but I have created a new category for any off topic discussions where the members can talk about anything they like.
you are most welcome and thank you for being a part of this forum.
Hopefully it won't be like that on this forum. If there is a need for more mods later, I will be making sure there won't be any cult-like behavior going on.404NotFound wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:29 pmMy main critique of the old forum is that members were not permitted to discuss anything that was not connected directly to an explicit AH teaching, so it was weird and cult-like behavior from the mods at times. Which is why I rarely posted, since I draw inspiration from anywhere and anyone, if it feels good. Which is all that AH is truly about, our own guidance!
In the main forum categories, there should be a focus on the abraham hicks teachings, but I have created a new category for any off topic discussions where the members can talk about anything they like.
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I was thinking the same regarding publishing the book! The Money Thread has so many great insights404NotFound wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:29 pm I didn't post much, mostly a lurker, but I was a member of the old Abe forum for many years, and it was always there for me when I needed inspiration. I had my favorites, people and posts. I won't name the people, but posts like that money thread with thousands of pages, that was particularly succulent! If I'd known the forum would disappear I would have copied the whole thing and had it published into a book.
My main critique of the old forum is that members were not permitted to discuss anything that was not connected directly to an explicit AH teaching, so it was weird and cult-like behavior from the mods at times. Which is why I rarely posted, since I draw inspiration from anywhere and anyone, if it feels good. Which is all that AH is truly about, our own guidance!
So hopefully this forum is a bit looser, I guess I'll find out, but for now, I have much gratitude for whoever made this happen, and I hope some other long time members find there way back here also.
I am also resonating with other teachers like Bashar, Kryon, Neville G., you name it!
However, I see great value that forum dedicated just to AH teachings is about their teachings. I see value because it's a forum where we can exercise the approach to various things from that perspective and it adds a lot of momentum and strength to that approach.
In my personal life I like to combine stuff
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Hello lovely people!
I am stunned to learn, that there is a "new" Abe-Forum! Thanks to those who have hinted me here, thanks to the arcane person(s ?) who created it, and thanks to Abraham, who I see (again) as focus-point and heart of it all.
Also thanks to the old Forum which might have transitioned to give way to a new approach with fresher, free-er, even more loving attitude than ever before!
I am stunned to learn, that there is a "new" Abe-Forum! Thanks to those who have hinted me here, thanks to the arcane person(s ?) who created it, and thanks to Abraham, who I see (again) as focus-point and heart of it all.
Also thanks to the old Forum which might have transitioned to give way to a new approach with fresher, free-er, even more loving attitude than ever before!