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I've had this one experience where I didn't want to sell my stuff but then circumstances occurred that caused/forced me to sell my stuff. Is source forcing me to do that?
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ZiggerotronLOA wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:35 am I've had this one experience where I didn't want to sell my stuff but then circumstances occurred that caused/forced me to sell my stuff. Is source forcing me to do that?
"Life happens" all the time.

-You could translate it in the sense that you are a victim (of fate, of circumstances, or of people, or of source...): "They did that to me".
-or you could translate it in the way that everything that happens, "conspires" ultimatively FOR you, to enable you towards the next logical steps "of least resistance" that is meant to lead you towards your Vortex and everything that is in there: "I did that" (=I desired that bigger outcome, I hold that beliefs, I have this resistances...)

Which one feels better? -The idea is to choose that better feeling route, and maybe ponder in which ways it is FOR you. Or to, at least, trust, that it gives you your perfect next steps, given which vibration and beliefs you hold and what you ultimatively desire- when you look from greater perspective.
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...I just came across this quote (coupled with a photo out of my life) and it felt right to bring it here. Neither did I "intend" to get COPD, nor did my daughter intend to break her foot. She didn't even intend to get the child on her knee! But here we are, incredibly thankful for what we created by default, that helped us so much to live the life that we REALLY intended...

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Our manifestations are often reflections of our vibrations.

If you're in a state where thoughts like this are active:
- Things aren't going well for me
- I'm losing things that are important to me
- I have no choice but to do things I don't want

then you can manifest a situation where you are "forced" to lose / sell things.
But it's not Source forcing you: it's just the power of your own vibration creating vibrationally-similar things into your experience. In a sense, you are forcing yourself into this situation by allowing unwanted thoughts to have a lot of air time and power over you.

If you train your vibration differently, where it has thoughts like this active:
- I would like to believe things are going well for me
- I would like to believe things tend to work out for me
- I would like to believe I'm a lucky person
- I would like to believe that miracles can happen - even to me!
- I would like to believe Source has my back

then maybe out of the blue, things happen where a solution pops up other than being forced to sell your stuff. Or - you sell your stuff - and then magically you get a better version gifted to you.
Your manifestations must match your vibrational set-point. Such is the Law of Attraction.

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POE, do you think your example of COPD is also the result of certain vibrational things going on? a manifestation of an active resistance of some kind? Do you think once this resistance is cleaned up the COPD will maybe magically disappear? :think2:
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ZiggerotronLOA wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:35 am I've had this one experience where I didn't want to sell my stuff but then circumstances occurred that caused/forced me to sell my stuff. Is source forcing me to do that?
Some vibrations have years of momentum pushing against it, that can cause things to keep going in an unwanted direction. In other words, we have been thinking unhelpful thoughts about things for a long time and it may not be just one thing.
We will have to keep practicing these teachings everyday forever, in doing that we can get a more positive momentum going for our lives.
I like to take the bounce emotionally as soon as I can when I see things going in an unwanted direction, at least I can feel better even if things don't get better right away.
My favorite thing I remember hearing is that things usually change in degrees rather than over night.
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spiritualcookie wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 7:32 am
POE, do you think your example of COPD is also the result of certain vibrational things going on? a manifestation of an active resistance of some kind?


My take on things happening has shifted big times, since I really try to live by Abe's teachings.
In the beginning (or even before knowing Abe), I thought:
"When you do things right, you will get the stuff and circumstances you desire- straight and fast, and that's it."

:lol: I still think that is true to some degree (you WILL get what you are a match to) but there is sooo much more to all of this.
There is a quote about a student asking the master, what meditation gives us. The master answers: "Nothing. But it takes away the fear of illness, getting old and dying." That is, at least, what happened to me on my journey... not because I meditated. But because I took EVERYTHING that happened as a gift on my journey to what I truly want.

...Abe lead me to understand that we humans often have no clue what we REALLY want. It begins with the fact that there are myriads of tiny details in our Vortexes that we either have forgotten about or suppressed wanting... but they still match our hearts desires, and together with many many more desires, they work as ingrediences for cakes (as Abe have explained). So, we (maybe) still recall that we have desired eggs and butter and sugar and flour... but we forgot that we have put spices into our Vortex as well, and a certain love for specific form of cake or an icing. Source, though, remembers ALL our desires. The big ones and the seemingly tiny and "insignificant" ones just as well. Source knows HOW we like our "cakes" and when and with whom. And when our vibe is right, we get cakes that blow us away in their beauty and perfection and yumminess- in just the perfect setting and time.

Abe say, we have put it ALL ITV, but the mixing and preparing and the delivery is sources job. Sometimes, there are some ingrediences missing to the "cake" we really want- and so, source brings us into situations where we REALLY desire the amount of (maybe still missing) ingredient. And when we went thorugh this desire-sparking part of life, the "cake" that came from it is SO WORTH IT. ...I hope I don't lose my audience, in using the analogy... :lol: :lol:

The bottom line is: This is NOT about "doing things right or wrong". It is about source and human (as sources extension who is able to come up with new desires so much better than source itself)- CO-CREATING new things, that have never before been. It is about the joy and satisfaction of realizing new desires, the journey of becoming a match and the "orgasmic" coming-into-alignment... ALL of it is part of it! Step 1, step 2 and step 3!

So, to answer your question: OF COURSE, my COPD is an outcome of my vibration, and my specific desires and resistances. As EVERY circumstance in my life is!
It is an indicator of what I'm doing and where I am in regards to my true desires, and it is a stepping stone to teach- and train me into more of what I want. It is CERTAINLY something that I learned is FOR me.

So, to give some more insights in my personal situation, here is a big resistance that I hold:
-I was (and still am in some significant ways) deeply ingrained in the old paradigm of thinking that "my worth would depend on how useful I am for the society. So- the more and the faster I work, the more worthy I am. And, vice versa, when I am a lazy bum, when I am slow, when I am not helpful, I am not worthy of living."

My desire was (as far as I am already aware of) to explore a life of true freedom, joy and "true unique Paradise"- NO MATTER of hard or fast work, and to master this in Alignment and then, teach it to those who are interested, "by my example" (as Abe put it).

So, I lived -until I was about 45, a life with very split energy- on the one hand working extremely hard until I got a burnout, and not finding spiritual/mental satisfaction until I got depressed. WHILE I knew that life should be easier and more (self-)loving and happy. Other people's needs where always more important to me than mine: And so, I used almost all my time and capability to do what others desired me to do, and help others to fulfill their dreams. Which are beautiful things, but not to this extent. Then I found Abe, and slowly, I could release my fear that felt literally life-threatening, of not working hard enough. A major breakdown forced me to stop sitting on the fence, finally, in one fell-swoop.
= Without this breakdown, and the COPD that the doctors found out about afterwards, I might still not dare to live "slow and lazy and explore FINALLY what *I* care about first and foremost". Thank you for having knocked me out, and given me rest and TIME and all needed excuses, COPD! :lol:

I got mocked a lot for "obviously doing things wrong", (certainly a result of having believed in "needing to do things "right" for so long). While I also knew the teachings about love and joy and ease, I tried SO HARD (do you have a guess already how this might turn out?) to apply them "right". Finally I gave up trying to explain to others, and became (unconditionally) happy just being happy. And in that time, Abe "invented" step 5- where you still love yourself while you are in step 1 (what most people would call "doing things wrong"). :lol: I had figured it out BEFORE! :lol: Love and Joy rank SO much higher than "doing things right"!
= I learned to UNCONDITIONALLY love and value myself. Feels sooooo much better than not!

...Maybe I took much too much time getting happy.
Maybe I still do things completely "wrong" (otherwise I would be magically healthy, incredibly beautiful and fantastically rich, right?) ;)
Maybe there are others who do it "right" much better and faster than me, but I don't care, as this is no race, and I can only do what I am capable of doing.
But certainly, I have a charmed awesome life, with which I am so VERY happy, since several years now... "I am eternally incomplete" (-Abe) and hope that I will have many more decades to live a life in fantastic miraculous health (and fantastic abundance), but really... if I would drop dead today, I would be so thankful for what was.
= I learned to not hunt through my life anymore, but to be UNCONDITIONALLY, solidly, peacefully "satisfied where I am and eager for more", in every moment and step on my way. This takes off the painful edge of almost everything :think2: or maybe, LITERALLY everything?
Do you think once this resistance is cleaned up the COPD will maybe magically disappear? :think2:
My doctor says, COPD is uncurable, but I don't believe that. So: I think so, yes! While probably not "magically" (while I wouldn't mind) :D but, more, step by step...?

I like what Lemon said: :hearts:
FeelGood wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:11 am My favorite thing I remember hearing is that things usually change in degrees rather than over night.
I have "cleaned up" so many resistances already- -each one has made my life so much better. But I don't dare any prognosis about "when I'm done". Maybe never! :hearts: And that is OK!
I am VERY satisfied anyway, so I am A-OK with it lingering and reminding me about what still is to do. And, I must admit: IT IS SUCH FUN to be pushed by my sons along the aisles of the grocery-shops in a race with my daughter, who pushes a stroller! My grandsons just LOVE to sit in my lap when we drive with the electrical wheelchair through the city! And it is so wonderful lazy to not be bored to death by walking (I NEVER liked to walk or to even hike!!) :lol: or to be pushed in a cargo-bike, while all others must pedal, just enjoying the ride, the wind in my hair.... :lol:

What I also know is, that in the last 10 years
-DH and I quadrupled our income (even I don't earn at all- and I don't have to!) and keep fulfilling more and more of our very dear desires.
-my doctors are in amazement that the COPD doesn't get worse as it "should"- actually, I "ought" at this time to not be able to walk on my own anymore, and be reliant on oxygen all the time- which I indeed don't need at all. I live in the 1. story of our house, climb the stairs on my own, and do most of my housework myself.

So... I want it ALL. But all in good timing- and I leave that to source, while my job is solely, to be happy! :vortex:
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Paradise-on-Earth wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:46 am Source knows HOW we like our "cakes" and when and with whom. And when our vibe is right, we get cakes that blow us away in their beauty and perfection and yumminess- in just the perfect setting and time.
I always loved the "individual ingredients you put in your vortex" vs "the full Vortexy cake made from these ingredients that you can't even imagine!" metaphor from Abe :hearts:
Paradise-on-Earth wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:46 am The bottom line is: This is NOT about "doing things right or wrong". It is about source and human (as sources extension who is able to come up with new desires so much better than source itself)- CO-CREATING new things, that have never before been. It is about the joy and satisfaction of realizing new desires, the journey of becoming a match and the "orgasmic" coming-into-alignment... ALL of it is part of it! Step 1, step 2 and step 3!
What is "right" and what is "wrong"? From what I understand - good-feeling or bad-feeling manifestations - according to Source, it's all "right". ("You can't get it wrong! You can't get off your path")

It's just us humans who prefer to feel good, which inserts the right/ wrong aspect to the story, where "right" means to do things that lead to us feeling good.
Paradise-on-Earth wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:46 am I found Abe, and slowly, I could release my fear that felt literally life-threatening, of not working hard enough.
:hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
A major breakdown forced me to stop sitting on the fence, finally, in one fell-swoop.
= Without this breakdown, and the COPD that the doctors found out about afterwards, I might still not dare to live "slow and lazy and explore FINALLY what *I* care about first and foremost". Thank you for having knocked me out, and given me rest and TIME and all needed excuses, COPD! :lol:
So the COPD forced you to experience the slower, lazier life you feared so much - and show you it was not the end of the world. It allowed you to accept, embrace and find the good in that which you previously feared. It allowed some resistance to lift on this subject. :hearts:
I got mocked a lot for "obviously doing things wrong",
To me, devleoping a health condition is a sign of not listening to the small subtle warning signs of unaligned thoughts / not soothing them when they are small, so the signs get much larger, forcing us to see them and address them.
Love and Joy rank SO much higher than "doing things right"!
By my personal very human viewpoint of right and wrong, "doing things right" IS being aligned with love and joy :lol:
= I learned to UNCONDITIONALLY love and value myself. Feels sooooo much better than not!
:hearts:
...Maybe I took much too much time getting happy.
It would have saved some suffering perhaps - but all that matters is where you are now :hearts:
Maybe I still do things completely "wrong" (otherwise I would be magically healthy, incredibly beautiful and fantastically rich, right?) ;)
Not having our desires yet must mean we have some resistance in place, right?
And the only way to our desires I think is
a.) Learning to soothe resistances (which requires awareness, and conscious work) - or
b.) Trusting we will find a different path of least resistance to our goals, moving around the obstacles of our resistances.
c.) Strengthening our beliefs to what's possible for us

Is that how you see it too?
Maybe there are others who do it "right" much better and faster than me, but I don't care, as this is no race, and I can only do what I am capable of doing.
absolutely! The only reason to look to others who are doing better than us I think, is for inspiration of what can be. And remain very conscious to not beat ourselves up about not being there yet. It's part of unconditionally loving ourselves. :hearts:
= I learned to not hunt through my life anymore, but to be UNCONDITIONALLY, solidly, peacefully "satisfied where I am and eager for more", in every moment and step on my way. This takes off the painful edge of almost everything :think2: or maybe, LITERALLY everything?
Yes, sometimes facing my resistances does have a bit of a painful edge, especially if they don't shift very easily. Resisting the resistances isn't what Abe advise either :lol: as you say, it's about relaxing into them; making peace with them; while being eager for more.

I have "cleaned up" so many resistances already- -each one has made my life so much better. But I don't dare any prognosis about "when I'm done". Maybe never! :hearts: And that is OK!
I think as we live our lives new desires are born, so new resistances are born. I don't think a human exists who gets to a stage of total zero resistant thoughts or beliefs.
I am VERY satisfied anyway, so I am A-OK with it lingering and reminding me about what still is to do. And, I must admit: IT IS SUCH FUN to be pushed by my sons along the aisles of the grocery-shops in a race with my daughter, who pushes a stroller! My grandsons just LOVE to sit in my lap when we drive with the electrical wheelchair through the city! And it is so wonderful lazy to not be bored to death by walking (I NEVER liked to walk or to even hike!!) :lol: or to be pushed in a cargo-bike, while all others must pedal, just enjoying the ride, the wind in my hair.... :lol:
I love that you find the good in the situation. I do have a question about finding the good in manifestations that may initially be unwanted:
To understand it from the Abe teachings' perspective:
say someone manifested something unwanted, like I dont know - growing a third eye in the middle of their forehead :lol: - if they were completely non-resistant to it; learned to see the good in it; would that make it impossible for it to go away? Because they've learned to love it? So why would it go away?
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ZiggerotronLOA wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:35 am I've had this one experience where I didn't want to sell my stuff but then circumstances occurred that caused/forced me to sell my stuff. Is source forcing me to do that?
"Life happens" all the time.

-You could translate it in the sense that you are a victim (of fate, of circumstances, or of people, or of source...): "They did that to me".
-or you could translate it in the way that everything that happens, "conspires" ultimatively FOR you, to enable you towards the next logical steps "of least resistance" that is meant to lead you towards your Vortex and everything that is in there: "I did that" (=I desired that bigger outcome, I hold that beliefs, I have this resistances...)

Which one feels better? -The idea is to choose that better feeling route, and maybe ponder in which ways it is FOR you. Or to, at least, trust, that it gives you your perfect next steps, given which vibration and beliefs you hold and what you ultimatively desire- when you look from greater perspective.
"-You could translate it in the sense that you are a victim (of fate, of circumstances, or of people, or of source...): "They did that to me"."
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spiritualcookie wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:05 pm
I always loved the "individual ingredients you put in your vortex" vs "the full Vortexy cake made from these ingredients that you can't even imagine!" metaphor from Abe :hearts:
:lol: oh yes... they describe it in such yummie ways!
What is "right" and what is "wrong"? From what I understand - good-feeling or bad-feeling manifestations - according to Source, it's all "right". ("You can't get it wrong! You can't get off your path")
exactly, that's the way I understand it, too.
It's just us humans who prefer to feel good, which inserts the right/ wrong aspect to the story, where "right" means to do things that lead to us feeling good.
...Now you shift topics, because "feeling not good" is something different than "doing it wrong". One is guidance, the other is judgement.

When we feel good, it is guidance that we move in- or towards Alignment with who we really are and what we really want. That's a good and wanted thing and source wants that for us. But it isn't wrong to chose what feels bad, because in doing so, we just get clearer about what we don't want, which adds more momentum to what we do want. So, EVERYTHING (as you say) adds to what is wanted, always. And so, everything is always "right". The concept of "wrong" doesn't make sense in sources world.
So the COPD forced you to experience the slower, lazier life you feared so much - and show you it was not the end of the world. It allowed you to accept, embrace and find the good in that which you previously feared. It allowed some resistance to lift on this subject. :hearts:
Exactly! Thank you for putting such beautiful words to it, I feel so understood! :hearts:

And: It literally opened up a world where I was free to discover life without "need to", "must" or "should". I suddenly was allowed to use my time in ways I never dared to, before! And it made me realize how much I had caved myself in, before. How harsh I had been to myself. How rigid. And how wonderful it was, to help MYSELF unfold and spread my wings and research what *I* was passionate about! It opened me up to SO much self-love.
To me, devleoping a health condition is a sign of not listening to the small subtle warning signs of unaligned thoughts / not soothing them when they are small, so the signs get much larger, forcing us to see them and address them.

Absolutely agreed! When we don't care for the subtle signs, "Don't worry, it will bigger" (Abe). The signs will get so loud and big, until we are able to hear and finally -hopefully- UNDERSTAND them, and start turning around and allowing the cells what they ask for.

"All disease is, is just very loud negative emotion" (Abe)
Love and Joy rank SO much higher than "doing things right"!
By my personal very human viewpoint of right and wrong, "doing things right" IS being aligned with love and joy :lol:
:D that's true! But you get what I mean, yes?
I meant, that LIVING love and joy are so much better than clubbing yourself over the head when you missed "doing it right"- aka, jusging yourself (or others).
It would have saved some suffering perhaps - but all that matters is where you are now :hearts:

True, but I -normally- like to know how I could get it easier and more effective, next time... (which maybe is a dead-end, but still...)

Fact is, imo, there is a difference between understanding the theory, and LIVING it practically. It's not enough to understand things in our head. We must train them, physically, and while we do that, all kinds of fears might pop us and scare us, and then we need to soothe that, and maybe we need some time off the subject... and on and on it goes. There are hundreds of layers, sometimes. And they all want to be embraced with love.

:lol: Which is a LOT of love to give to yourself (and others), again and again and again, and that can take LOTS of time, until the wounds really are healed.... Which makes for an awesome life. But it doesn't jive with the theory of "Understanding it- applying it in the right ways- getting the desired results- DONE." :wtf:
Not having our desires yet must mean we have some resistance in place, right?
That- or not yet having enough momentum. Both is possible.
And the only way to our desires I think is
a.) Learning to soothe resistances (which requires awareness, and conscious work) - or
b.) Trusting we will find a different path of least resistance to our goals, moving around the obstacles of our resistances.
c.) Strengthening our beliefs to what's possible for us

Is that how you see it too?
I agree with this 3 points, and I add EVERYTHING that is simply joyful, interesting or in any way feeling good, to us. Because when you strengthen your joyful vibes (in any way yo feel drawn to- going to the beach, reading, baking, petting the cat, digging deep into your passions...) you make being ITV more the norm, for you. You "train yourself into high flying vibrations", as Abe say, which is also the receptive mode- where you are clear to hear the joyful impulses and get the joyful inspirations, and where your joyful momentum becomes higher and faster and more and more solid. And this fast, bold momentum will then be capable to override resistances. You literally become "invincible". It really feels that way, in this stance! And that makes for all sorts of "miracles".
absolutely! The only reason to look to others who are doing better than us I think, is for inspiration of what can be. And remain very conscious to not beat ourselves up about not being there yet. It's part of unconditionally loving ourselves. :hearts:
That's a very wise approach! :hearts:

And, while I totally agree with you, I have learned to forgive myself that I am human and sometimes, I look at others to see if I am still inside the flock/the pack/the community that soothes me to be a part of. We humans are gregarious animals, and that's ok to a certain point! ...Until it's no longer helpful, but becomes detrimental. But for deciphering this, we have our emotional guidance!
I think as we live our lives new desires are born, so new resistances are born. I don't think a human exists who gets to a stage of total zero resistant thoughts or beliefs.
Agreed! Exactly.
But we can come to a point, where life doesn't cause new desires, anymore. We are then "satiated". Or - in a negative way, we don't allow ourselves no more desires because we fear the pain of them probably not coming into fulfillment. And- in both cases, that's when life draws back and we transition. Where life goes on- with MUCH less resistance... :lol:
I love that you find the good in the situation. I do have a question about finding the good in manifestations that may initially be unwanted:
To understand it from the Abe teachings' perspective:
say someone manifested something unwanted, like I dont know - growing a third eye in the middle of their forehead :lol: - if they were completely non-resistant to it; learned to see the good in it; would that make it impossible for it to go away?

According to Abe, nothing is ever "done". It all is changing, and it is changing all the time (but maybe we don't notice because it "changes" to more of the same.)

So as soon we don't like something, or we like something else BETTER, the new born preference goes as a "rocket of desire" :rocket: into our Vortex. So, there is NO CHANCE that you are ever stuck with a 3. eye in your forehead that you like less than just having 2 eyes... no matter how much you appreciate it's good sides! To the contrary. The less you push against the not really wanted, the EASIER it shifts. Because you don't cling to it by shouting "no" at it!

The less resistant you are, the more joyful, loving and accepting you are, the easier you move towards what you REALLY want.
But that might be things that you had completely forgotten.
And it might be things that your friends don't understand.
Or it might be stuff that you had no idea they would be the REAL desires... as it was for me, when I dreamed of "Paradise on Earth".

I thought, to live my Paradise, I would need to look stunning (in a way that society accepts as "stunning"!!) be free of wrinkles and any "over-weight" (who gets to decide what that is?). I would drive Super-cars and of course would be completely healthy, all the time and never have a mundane problem.

Now, while I don't exactly push against any of this former goals, I learned that *I* get to decide what "stunning" means, and I realize that diseases are NOT "the devil" but sometimes your very best friend allowing you a shortcut, and I know (after having driven several of them) that Supercars are fun but in most cases not really practical... I celebrate my many "mundane problems" as a source of great amusement in most cases, most of the time... and I REALLY like my wrinkles. I would be annoyed to not express my age and all the knowing, wisdom and depth that comes with it. :muscle-flex-small: :hoppy:
And... I wouldn't know what to do with the young boys that are attracted to young chicks!. :lol: I want REAL MEN!

Before this journey, I had no idea that I REALLY wanted fun. Silly, non-sense, happy hilarious FUN. Instead, I aimed for glamour and getting revered...
I had no idea how much I wanted to be an unconditional lover- of others and myself. Instead, I had aimed for doing things "right" (I couldn't care less about that, today!)
I had no idea how much I would care in "Paradise", for gentle friendliness and truly understanding others and myself. Then, I valued fierce fights, that seemed fearless to me (and of course, I looked for finally losing my fears). Now I KNOW, that with true LOVING, all fears vanish. They just dissolve.
Because they've learned to love it? So why would it go away?
...Because there are things in your Vortex that you love even MORE!

The content in our Vortex is what Abe call "our destiny". It is what source "literally BECAME" (Abe). So, source know EXACTLY what we prefer.
There is a difference between "being a lover" (which, according to Abe we all truly are when we are not resistant) and having "preferences" and "desires".
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ZiggerotronLOA wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 7:29 pm
"-You could translate it in the sense that you are a victim (of fate, of circumstances, or of people, or of source...): "They did that to me"."
Victim of source?
Sure! Lots of people hate God, or Source- because they vibrate so low that they have no whiff of clarity what "pure Goodness" is. They feel as victims to it.
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