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spiritualcookie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:12 pm
Thank you for the clarification POE!

Yes! so true - if you're going from powerlessness to hate and revenge, it's still progress on the path from Phoenix to San Diego!

I guess the "feeling good 51% of the time" is maybe the tipping point for when the manifestation becomes more likely, but getting from 0 to 51% is "moving forward" for sure, and is a huge achievement in itself!

Yes, isn't it! ...When I realized this (as you maybe know, I was for years in the old-Forum "Feel Good Club", where we experimented with this 51%), it was SUCH a relief. Later the Abe-quote "there is a lot of relief outside of the Vortex" became famous. Bottom line- we did not only come to sit in a "feathered nest", aka, all time ITV. We came to explore all of the human range, and to make peace with EVERY rung of the EGS-ladder, and to appreciate each single stance- as, without them, we wouldn't be free to choose. We would be defined by "only" elation. But it is really the contrast and the wide range, that makes us true Lovers, and true Creators. "Step 5" is all about explaining this stance of mastery.

Abe have said, that in our willingness to explore the Contrast, we not only expand the Universe, but show God what Love truly IS (!!) Because, not having other options than to be in love does not make you KNOW love. That's big, right? (I wish I had my old Quotes about all that!!! )

And: -As I said below, thank YOU for the great opportunity to enjoy a round of fresh thinking!

I just wanted to add the term "Path of Least Resistance" to our discussion

The squiggly line indicates our Path of Least Resistance when there is quite a lot of resistance there!
Every time there is a block in the road, we veer off the straight path a little, but like a GPS in the car that re-directs your route, you always find a way around the block to go where you want to go, even if it's a slightly longer way around!

Yes, exactly!
AND, Abe have really pointed out that source almost never sends us on the most straight, shortest path. It would be a missed opportunity to rendezvous with so much good stuff that we had forgotten that we desired them!

Our "desires" that become goals (that draw us through life and life through us) tend to make us blind for the things that we ALSO want. But source doesn't forget about them. Otherwise, we would have very "achieved" but also very boring, shallow lives.

I love this! haha and I love your term "cha-cha-cha's"

Theoretically, since in non-physical everything is instantly manifested, non-physical probably really enjoys the cha-cha-chas that only exist in our physical realm! I was listening to a podcast where they said that non-physical even enjoys the experience of "waiting" in the physical realm because such a thing doesn't really exist in non-physical

haha, indeed! I remember the (exact) quote:

"If you would have intended to always be ITV, you would have stayed here in nonphysical, with lazy old us"! (Abe)

In Germany, we really call it "Cha cha cha", not "Cha cha"! But I learned now you do it differently...

Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:11 am

spiritualcookie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:49 pm I'm so appreciative of ChosenUndead07 for asking this question because it unveiled a gap in my understanding:

Say you're 70% aligned with something, say, you want to win the lottery, and you're 70% aligned with believing that can happen to you. Can this desire manifest even if you're not at 100% alignment with it? Or will it be impossible because you're only at 70%, so instead your POLR will be some other way of attracting a similar-feeling abundance that you ARE 100% aligned with?

Abe said, the solution/answer becomes probable, as soon you are SOLIDLY more aligned with it than not, aka, at 51%.
When you just are at 51% for a second, I'd say, it's probably not manifesting yet. But it becomes probable.

You are such an abundance of wisdom POE!

If being 51% - <<<100% aligned makes manifestation probable (but not certain) - the next question is - what determines if it will happen or not? What drives the "Probability" if it's not alignment (since, say you're steady at your level of less than 100% aligned)?

Say there are 100 people who all want to win the lottery - none of them are 100% aligned with it; all of them are 70% aligned with it, but only one wins. Why did that one win?

As I write I'm getting a possible answer
Perhaps it's to do with
(1) the differences in the strength of their desires - Perhaps the person with the strongest desire wins
(2) the differences in in the contents of their vortexes.
If "winning the lottery" is the "completed baked cake" of many many of their vortex-desires, it would help them win over others for whom it may be a less perfect vortex-match.
(3) the differences in their pre-birth intentions? This is not an Abe-teaching as far as I know, but other spiritual teachers suggest that we have certain subjects we want to explore in each life. Perhaps if "winning the lottery" is a match to a pre-birth intention (eg "exploring the concept of abundance") it also increases the probability of it happening.

spiritualcookie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:08 am
You are such an abundance of wisdom POE!

awww

If being 51% - <<<100% aligned makes manifestation probable (but not certain) - the next question is - what determines if it will happen or not? What drives the "Probability" if it's not alignment (since, say you're steady at your level of less than 100% aligned)?

Say there are 100 people who all want to win the lottery - none of them are 100% aligned with it; all of them are 70% aligned with it, but only one wins. Why did that one win?

As I write I'm getting a possible answer
Perhaps it's to do with
(1) the differences in the strength of their desires - Perhaps the person with the strongest desire wins
(2) the differences in in the contents of their vortexes.
If "winning the lottery" is the "completed baked cake" of many many of their vortex-desires, it would help them win over others for whom it may be a less perfect vortex-match.
(3) the differences in their pre-birth intentions? This is not an Abe-teaching as far as I know, but other spiritual teachers suggest that we have certain subjects we want to explore in each life. Perhaps if "winning the lottery" is a match to a pre-birth intention (eg "exploring the concept of abundance") it also increases the probability of it happening.

I'd say "yes" to all your answers you received!

Adding two things: The pre-birth-intentions are imbedded in Abrahams teaching, as well. They don't deny them at all, per example in pointing out that we come with a very well filled Vortex, already: We come with intentions, and sometimes a MIGHTY momentum. Which means, some of our desires might already be VERY specific when we come in. Per example, when somebody was especially passionate about certain topics in former lives (as many artists, inventors, scientists, lightworkers, etc). Abe just don't want to give the impression that we would be somehow diminished by this pre-destined (I feel the resistance even in this word!) choices. We really are FREE to choose new, if we want that, when we get here, and while we live here. But most REALLY want to follow their unique red threads, so to speak. It just stirs their fascination.

And, second: Most people have no idea how much ITV they really are. Abe said, we really CAN not know. We can only guess, and unfold step by organic, loving, step. And my own life showed me (even I am not a person who feels like being very unaware) that I had no clue HOW MUCH resistance I held on to, carried, bowed to, before life forced me to drop some of it! And I still have no idea how much is there, still. Our resistance feels so normal. It is just how things are, we get so used to holding on to it, and even believe it would be "right" or life-saving.

But what I learned is: As long my stuff doesn't show up, I obviously am not yet in alignment with it, and so it's my job to JOYFULLY (!!) line up more, relax more, let go more, and maybe (this one is big) stop telling the "story" of how "I am STILL not there!!!"

Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:57 am The pre-birth-intentions are imbedded in Abrahams teaching, as well. They don't deny them at all, per example in pointing out that we come with a very well filled Vortex, already: We come with intentions, and sometimes a MIGHTY momentum. Which means, some of our desires might already be VERY specific when we come in. Per example, when somebody was especially passionate about certain topics in former lives (as many artists, inventors, scientists, lightworkers, etc). Abe just don't want to give the impression that we would be somehow diminished by this pre-destined (I feel the resistance even in this word!) choices. We really are FREE to choose new, if we want that, when we get here, and while we live here. But most REALLY want to follow their unique red threads, so to speak. It just stirs their fascination.

I don't think I've heard those recordings about Abraham talking about specific pre-birth desires with mighty momentum. This is stirring a new desire within me to find more quotes for our pre-birth intentions thread

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Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:57 am And, second: Most people have no idea how much ITV they really are. Abe said, we really CAN not know. We can only guess, and unfold step by organic, loving, step. And my own life showed me (even I am not a person who feels like being very unaware) that I had no clue HOW MUCH resistance I held on to, carried, bowed to, before life forced me to drop some of it! And I still have no idea how much is there, still. Our resistance feels so normal. It is just how things are, we get so used to holding on to it, and even believe it would be "right" or life-saving.

It is so true! I have been training myself to read my subtle body clues in the early stages that indicate resistance, because if I don't pay attention to what my body is saying, I often don't notice the resistance otherwise! Even these days when I catch myself tense in my body, it's often tricky to track the body-signs to a specific resistant thought!

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Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:57 am what I learned is: As long my stuff doesn't show up, I obviously am not yet in alignment with it, and so it's my job to JOYFULLY (!!) line up more, relax more, let go more, and maybe (this one is big) stop telling the "story" of how "I am STILL not there!!!"

Such good advice for releasing resistance & aligning. I like the relaxing part best

spiritualcookie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:19 pm
I don't think I've heard those recordings about Abraham talking about specific pre-birth desires with mighty momentum. This is stirring a new desire within me to find more quotes for our pre-birth intentions thread

I'm on the look-out, too. It was especially talked about that in regards to artists!

It is so true! I have been training myself to read my subtle body clues in the early stages that indicate resistance, because if I don't pay attention to what my body is saying, I often don't notice the resistance otherwise! Even these days when I catch myself tense in my body, it's often tricky to track the body-signs to a specific resistant thought!

Ohh I hear you!! it helped me a lot to hear Abe say, that the indicator kicks in IN THE VERY MOMENT (well, maybe a buffer of a few seconds?) when "I do it": "It doesn't show up in a month. It shows up right NOW!"

Such good advice for releasing resistance & aligning. I like the relaxing part best

YES! And still it is the MOST tricky, for me... (ups! I notice, "I'm telling the unhelpful story"! ...I let it stand. So that others can learn from that)

Thank you guys for your replies.

I've been following and listening to Abraham for 10+ years and I got to say it's challenging stuff to put into practice sometimes. This can easily feel like effort.

It's nice that things don't manifest instantly, it would be mayhem if they did, but this buffer of time can feel so elusive because for something to manifest it requires such a steady vibrational offering that sometimes I feel like it's mentally impossible. I'd wake up in the morning ITV, feeling absolutely great and energized only to then turn on the TV and/or scroll through social media and feel a dip in my vibration, which sends back to Phoenix...

I know that Abraham doesn't recommend doing this alignment work in order to get manifestations because that ulterior motive gets in the way, but just for the sake of this conversation, how is someone supposed to fulfill the 99.99% of vibrational alignment if it's inevitable that they're going to get out of their vortex eventually and lose all of their progress?

ChosenUndead07 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:37 pm Thank you guys for your replies.

I've been following and listening to Abraham for 10+ years and I got to say it's challenging stuff to put into practice sometimes. This can easily feel like effort.

That's true! And as long as it does- theres so much more joy and clarity to gain!

It's nice that things don't manifest instantly, it would be mayhem if they did, but this buffer of time can feel so elusive because for something to manifest it requires such a steady vibrational offering that sometimes I feel like it's mentally impossible. I'd wake up in the morning ITV, feeling absolutely great and energized only to then turn on the TV and/or scroll through social media and feel a dip in my vibration, which sends back to Phoenix...

I'm not sure that this story of "being sent back to Phoenix" really serves you. How does it FEEL? It would feel as drama, to * me *. Which would be my indicator, that it is not true. Why not phrase this less overdramatic?

Why not think that you maybe slipped a step, or so...? But, sent back to Phoenix? REALLY??
But if you insist on that story- so be it. You create your own reality! You can make it as hard or as simple and fun as you choose to!

I know that Abraham doesn't recommend doing this alignment work in order to get manifestations because that ulterior motive gets in the way, but just for the sake of this conversation, how is someone supposed to fulfill the 99.99% of vibrational alignment if it's inevitable that they're going to get out of their vortex eventually and lose all of their progress?

Haven't we made clear- VERY clear, that it is about -approximately- 51%? ...And that "99.99%" is an absolutely IMPOSSIBIBLE goal? Nobody achieves that. Not even people as masterful Jesus ("They don't nail you up, when you are ITV!" -Abe).

Perfection is not even possible- and it is nothing that we should ever strive for. What is helpful is EASE. Not taking things so seriously. Humor. Playfulness. "Letting go", chilling out, being nicer to yourself! Really REALLY!

I had to think of you when I transcribed this:


Allow your Trust to get bigger!

Abraham, giving an example of what we could say, that would help us:

I have been focused upon some specific things that matter a lot to me. And in the process, I have managed to launch more Rockets of Desire around this, than I can count. And I sense, that those Rockets of Desire have managed to accomplish a point of Attraction! But since I can't see it yet, or see it in its tangible form, sometimes I doubt it...

...Because I'm accustomed to trusting what I see. But not so much, trusting what is unseen. I want to find a way of knowing it even though I can't see it!


I want to feel it even before it IS.
Because I understand, that until I feel it, I'm not going to be able to see it. It would be so much easier if I could see it, and then know it! But I understand that I've got to know it before I can see it. And so, I'm not really asking you Abraham or Source-energy to do anything about it, to make it happen in some unnatural way. What I'm really asking for, is that I can somehow release my resistance- in a way, that I can trust that it is coming. Because trust feels so good. And doubt feels so bad- and so, what I'm really talking about here, is:

How can I goose up my trust?
How can I remind myself that things are really always working out for me?
How can I trust that it will be, as I want it to be?

So, here's the answer to that question: Look at other things around you, that are, as you want them to be.

And remember when you didn't see them, as they are now! Remember the things, that were in motion before you could see them?
And know, that all things are that way.

Trusting the process... but it's it's not the easiest thing to do!
But you can trust in your alignment.
You can trust in your emotion.
You can trust in the laws of the universe.
You can trust in the very consistent Law of Attraction!
You can trust in your Inner Being, who is aware of you.
You can trust that source is with you.
You can trust, that what you want is known, and honored, and experienced by the Inner Being- part of you!
You can trust that it's just a matter of practicing that feeling.

-That's what the process of "getting to anything that you want, that hasn't come about yet" is!

What you have to accomplish is:
-You have to realize that the journey has begun.
-And you want to stay in your lane, as you're going!
-You want to find the thoughts that feel good, and if the thought doesn't feel good, then release it as quickly as you can.
-And don't let a worrysome thought get started! Don't let it get any momentum going.

As you go to bed at night, lie on your bed and know, that while you sleep, that any momentum that is slowing anything down, will stop.
And the momentum of your source, and the momentum of what you are wanting, is underway in full swing!

And imagine that when you awaken in the morning, because you've slept and your vibration has risen as a result of being asleep, that you will meet the vibration of your Source in the moment that you awaken! And, ask specifically for some feeling, some impulse, some confirmation of that. And expect it to come- at first in the form of emotion.

It can come in other ways, through rendezvousing. People will say things to you, they don't even know you, and they'll be saying things to you that are meaningful to you! Things will happen in your environment, all kinds of things will come as messengers to let you know, that you're right on track. Watch for the evidence of the messengers along the way!

This is really what we are wishing for all of you: To look for evidence of your alignment before the manifestation.

This is the secret of living happily ever after, and it's the secret of getting the specific things that you want: Look for the evidence, before it is seeable, hearable, smellable, tastable, touchable. Look for the evidence along the way, and watch what happens!

An avalanche of it will come to you. You're ready to receive the evidence.

from the clip: Abraham Hicks HOW CAN I TRUST THAT IS COMING? Law of Attraction

And maybe this quote makes you think, and challenge your beliefs that this must be hard