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spiritualcookie wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 4:31 pm
hm if it can combine and split up and re-combine with other Inner Beings, I don't think it has an individual vantage point like ours though.
I think things are not quite as distinct in non-physical since it's easier to merge with other energies too.

And it's possible for one "individual" Inner Being to be focused on more than one humans living a physical experience.
In *my* understanding, the unique individual personality never gets lost.
And the unique Inner Being of a person is unique, and also never gets destroyed or swallowed up with other IB's... The "soul" can split up and merge, but what defined "Jerry" or "Esther" (or whomever) still doesn't get lost.

Abe say that it is difficult for humans to wholly understand this "being everywhere and being also highly specifically focused" at the same time. They say, it's a bit as looking through a flies eye- that indeed consists of hundreds of unique facets, that all blend into one sight. But still, each single facet has their own reality.

So, nothing ever gets destroyed- but it can merge into one, without losing the identity of the many.
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Some HS'ers have asked if their personality will dissolve into the "whole"- some sort of "soul-soup", when thy croak. Abe each time answered along the lines of yelling: "noooooo! What fun would that be!??"
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Paradise-on-Earth wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 4:52 pm the unique Inner Being of a person is unique, and also never gets destroyed or swallowed up with other IB's... The "soul" can split up and merge, but what defined "Jerry" or "Esther" (or whomever) still doesn't get lost.
wait.. is the Soul different from the Inner Being? I thought they were the same thing! :lol:
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spiritualcookie wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 5:50 pm
Paradise-on-Earth wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 4:52 pm the unique Inner Being of a person is unique, and also never gets destroyed or swallowed up with other IB's... The "soul" can split up and merge, but what defined "Jerry" or "Esther" (or whomever) still doesn't get lost.
wait.. is the Soul different from the Inner Being? I thought they were the same thing! :lol:
:D that is MY take, and I agree... I guess I might be wrong.
*I* have not heard Abe talk about it... but I'd say, our IB is a part of our soul. And our soul is made of several IB's -that are this unique vantage-points (from the nonphysical stance) of a single human.

Abe have said that we never have less than 200 "soulmates" incarnated in the same time as us, ourselves. I personally think that they, together, are our soul... but again, I might be wrong in this.

I really would love to see new quotes/clips about all this!
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Paradise-on-Earth wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 7:52 pm I'd say, our IB is a part of our soul.
I asked chatGPT and according to it, it seems your are right that the IB is just a part of the Soul. ChatGPT says that the Soul is the Inner Being PLUS the physical part of you, whereas your Inner Being does not include the little human physical part. I'm not sure how correct this is but that's what I understood from our AI friend :lol:
Paradise-on-Earth wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 7:52 pm Abe have said that we never have less than 200 "soulmates" incarnated in the same time as us, ourselves. I personally think that they, together, are our soul...
I haven't heard any Abe talks on this either - but in my mind I thought soulmates were part of our "Soul families" rather than part of our actual soul. I can't remember where I read about this - I think it was in one of the Life Between Lives kind of books by Brian Weiss or Michael Newton.
I really would love to see new quotes/clips about all this!
Me too! :hearts:
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spiritualcookie wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 10:41 pm
Paradise-on-Earth wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 7:52 pm I'd say, our IB is a part of our soul.
I asked chatGPT and according to it, it seems your are right that the IB is just a part of the Soul. ChatGPT says that the Soul is the Inner Being PLUS the physical part of you, whereas your Inner Being does not include the little human physical part. I'm not sure how correct this is but that's what I understood from our AI friend :lol:
:lol: :lol: I never thought of asking AI!
...While I admit that it is a nice way to feed yourself with more info, that then, one can check with our inner guidance... IF IT FEELS GOOD (or as a valid, good feeling "solution"), it is probably "right" or at least an answer that source doesn't totally disagree with! :hearts:
Paradise-on-Earth wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 7:52 pm Abe have said that we never have less than 200 "soulmates" incarnated in the same time as us, ourselves. I personally think that they, together, are our soul...
I haven't heard any Abe talks on this either - but in my mind I thought soulmates were part of our "Soul families" rather than part of our actual soul. I can't remember where I read about this - I think it was in one of the Life Between Lives kind of books by Brian Weiss or Michael Newton.
I'm not familiar with those, but this answer "feels" not wrong to me, either!
Me too!
:hearts: In the end, does it really matter? I believe, as soon any specific answer REALLY matters to us, or is necessary for our next steps, we will get more information, for sure! :vortex:
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What brings me to the conclusion that our inner being has an individual vantage point is that our inner being is the broadest version of us. When we put something in our vortex it is absolutely concentrated on this new idea and becomes it. So i think it is possible that it is like an energy stream and simultanously the whole new developed Version of me. But i think everyone has his own inner being and they can connect and Co create, but they don't Lose their Individuality. It wouldn't make sense when my inner being is just one with all-that-is without a knowing about his individuality and without a knowing about all my Incarnations and without a knowing about all that i have become, because only in this variety and individuality we can experience something like purpose or love or desires. It is something that i feel so deep sinçe i was a child and this resonates with me. Abraham is so clear and gives something so beautiful,

Thank you Poe end spiritualcookie :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :flowdownstream: :in_love:

Paradise on earth is a wonderful name. You as german knows perhaps the thing called "heile welt". When i was a Teenager i believed on paradise, i said always we are paradise-childs. I was aware that is has to give a world full of positive energy, where everything is healed and out dreams are reality. Now i know this is the vortex. And your name is so well choosed, because with Abraham i learned that we can allow this paradise to be here.

But what is with our spiritual guides, are they seperated from our inner being? I have the feeling that a good friend of mine who comitted suicide is now my spiritual guide, because always i get on my Phone his phondnummer appears. It would be a great pleasure when someone could help me to contact him, i have the feeling he tries to contact me.
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FloatingBoat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:16 pm What brings me to the conclusion that our inner being has an individual vantage point is that our inner being is the broadest version of us. When we put something in our vortex it is absolutely concentrated on this new idea and becomes it. So i think it is possible that it is like an energy stream and simultanously the whole new developed Version of me. But i think everyone has his own inner being and they can connect and Co create, but they don't Lose their Individuality. It wouldn't make sense when my inner being is just one with all-that-is without a knowing about his individuality and without a knowing about all my Incarnations and without a knowing about all that i have become, because only in this variety and individuality we can experience something like purpose or love or desires. It is something that i feel so deep sinçe i was a child and this resonates with me. Abraham is so clear and gives something so beautiful,

Thank you Poe end spiritualcookie :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :flowdownstream: :in_love:
Imo, you have phrased that perfectly! :hearts: I absolutely agree! (And, my great pleasure, on my side!)
Paradise on earth is a wonderful name. You as german knows perhaps the thing called "heile welt". When i was a Teenager i believed on paradise, i said always we are paradise-childs. I was aware that is has to give a world full of positive energy, where everything is healed and out dreams are reality. Now i know this is the vortex. And your name is so well choosed, because with Abraham i learned that we can allow this paradise to be here.
What a wonderful awareness! Beautiful!
I, too, desired as child already to create my own Paradise. People told me that this would be impossible, but I never believed them. I like especially the idea that is in this phrase, that we bring the knowing and the light, love and clarity (as also the law) "from the Heavens" and build it in physicality. And also, vice versa, that in manifesting the heavenly /spiritual/paradisy concepts on Earth, we "fulfill" them. As Abe have said, "Manifestation is the furtherest leading edge of Spirit". It is what is most SPECIFIC. When an idea ascends into physical manifestation, it explodes so to speak, it exponentiates in all ways. Which is awesome all in itself!

I LOVE physicality- with all the beautiful contrast, colors, hues, differences of materials, ideas, weather, seasons... as an artist in multiple fields I never stop reveling in all the beauty and potential that is. And also I love the purity of heavenly/divine clarity. Bringing both together is, as Abe say, "the best of all worlds".
But what is with our spiritual guides, are they seperated from our inner being?

As Abe point out, "separation" is a too big word. In our core, we are all one. But we deliberately vary so much in our extensions that we can decipher the contrast for the desired variety and the opportunity to Create.
I have the feeling that a good friend of mine who comitted suicide is now my spiritual guide, because always i get on my Phone his phondnummer appears. It would be a great pleasure when someone could help me to contact him, i have the feeling he tries to contact me.
That he wants to connect with you is absolutely possible and even very probable. Why don't you try to channel him, yourself? We ALL have that ability. Maybe you want to start with automatic writing, or with using a ouija-board? But SENSING the information you share here is a start, also. Believe in the truth of it, WHEN IT FEELS GOOD TO YOU.

The message of our guides is ALWAYS bringing us an emotion of peace, love, being soothed, being lovingly understood. They never warn, mock or scold us. So, when you get some thoughts or sentences that FEEL GOOD, you are on the trail already.
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spiritualcookie wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 10:41 pm
Paradise-on-Earth wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 7:52 pm I'd say, our IB is a part of our soul.
I asked chatGPT and according to it, it seems your are right that the IB is just a part of the Soul. ChatGPT says that the Soul is the Inner Being PLUS the physical part of you, whereas your Inner Being does not include the little human physical part. I'm not sure how correct this is but that's what I understood from our AI friend :lol:
Paradise-on-Earth wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 7:52 pm Abe have said that we never have less than 200 "soulmates" incarnated in the same time as us, ourselves. I personally think that they, together, are our soul...
I haven't heard any Abe talks on this either - but in my mind I thought soulmates were part of our "Soul families" rather than part of our actual soul. I can't remember where I read about this - I think it was in one of the Life Between Lives kind of books by Brian Weiss or Michael Newton.
I really would love to see new quotes/clips about all this!
Me too! :hearts:
I am not sure. But from what i heard from abraham our soul is always our physical part and our non physical part. Abraham is a connection from a lot of inner beings. But i think our inner being can connect and Merge with other inner beings but in that process every inner being mantains his own vantage point and individuality. You can never Lose anything from you.
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Paradise-on-Earth wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:21 pm
FloatingBoat wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:16 pm What brings me to the conclusion that our inner being has an individual vantage point is that our inner being is the broadest version of us. When we put something in our vortex it is absolutely concentrated on this new idea and becomes it. So i think it is possible that it is like an energy stream and simultanously the whole new developed Version of me. But i think everyone has his own inner being and they can connect and Co create, but they don't Lose their Individuality. It wouldn't make sense when my inner being is just one with all-that-is without a knowing about his individuality and without a knowing about all my Incarnations and without a knowing about all that i have become, because only in this variety and individuality we can experience something like purpose or love or desires. It is something that i feel so deep sinçe i was a child and this resonates with me. Abraham is so clear and gives something so beautiful,

Thank you Poe end spiritualcookie :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :flowdownstream: :in_love:
Imo, you have phrased that perfectly! :hearts: I absolutely agree! (And, my great pleasure, on my side!)
Paradise on earth is a wonderful name. You as german knows perhaps the thing called "heile welt". When i was a Teenager i believed on paradise, i said always we are paradise-childs. I was aware that is has to give a world full of positive energy, where everything is healed and out dreams are reality. Now i know this is the vortex. And your name is so well choosed, because with Abraham i learned that we can allow this paradise to be here.
What a wonderful awareness! Beautiful!
I, too, desired as child already to create my own Paradise. People told me that this would be impossible, but I never believed them. I like especially the idea that is in this phrase, that we bring the knowing and the light, love and clarity (as also the law) "from the Heavens" and build it in physicality. And also, vice versa, that in manifesting the heavenly /spiritual/paradisy concepts on Earth, we "fulfill" them. As Abe have said, "Manifestation is the furtherest leading edge of Spirit". It is what is most SPECIFIC. When an idea ascends into physical manifestation, it explodes so to speak, it exponentiates in all ways. Which is awesome all in itself!

I LOVE physicality- with all the beautiful contrast, colors, hues, differences of materials, ideas, weather, seasons... as an artist in multiple fields I never stop reveling in all the beauty and potential that is. And also I love the purity of heavenly/divine clarity. Bringing both together is, as Abe say, "the best of all worlds".
But what is with our spiritual guides, are they seperated from our inner being?

As Abe point out, "separation" is a too big word. In our core, we are all one. But we deliberately vary so much in our extensions that we can decipher the contrast for the desired variety and the opportunity to Create.
I have the feeling that a good friend of mine who comitted suicide is now my spiritual guide, because always i get on my Phone his phondnummer appears. It would be a great pleasure when someone could help me to contact him, i have the feeling he tries to contact me.
That he wants to connect with you is absolutely possible and even very probable. Why don't you try to channel him, yourself? We ALL have that ability. Maybe you want to start with automatic writing, or with using a ouija-board? But SENSING the information you share here is a start, also. Believe in the truth of it, WHEN IT FEELS GOOD TO YOU.

The message of our guides is ALWAYS bringing us an emotion of peace, love, being soothed, being lovingly understood. They never warn, mock or scold us. So, when you get some thoughts or sentences that FEEL GOOD, you are on the trail already.

FIrst of all i have to say you are a wonderful being. André, my friend wrote in this book in a Church " let there be a heaven", the next day he decided to make his transition. So i resonate with your advice to use a ouija Board.

I think you are right, on our core we are all one. But from this unity there emanates so much wonderful beings, beginning to create everything, so the expansion will never Ends.
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