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Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 10:21 am

Awa wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2024 9:06 am What would actually happen, if I were to feel really happy and genuine joy from now on, for whatever reason?

To answer with an Abe-quote:
"You would live happily ever after!"

We, who practice Abe's teachings, are supposed to be happier, richer, more beautiful, more relaxed, healthier than the rest of the world and enjoy life in all its wonderful facets. But we talk about it and write lists, because we don't have all of that, right?

Awa wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 6:01 am
We, of all people, who practice Abe's teachings, are supposed to be happier, richer, more beautiful, more relaxed, healthier than the rest of the world and enjoy life in all its wonderful facets. But we talk about it and write lists, because we don't have all of that, right?

Nooo!! We are NOT "supposed" to be!!!!
That is a HUGE misconception.

We CAN learn to get there (which will be a journey). And this journey is supposed to be JOYFUL (which will not always work out, because we all are humans).

"You are so free, you can chose bondage!" -Abe

We came here to sift and sort through the contrast, and in that, find our preferences and desires, and then, ALLOW them through Alignment (no matter how you achieve it, lists, magic, whatever...). THAT IS OUR "job", aka Step 1, and also Step 3.
And we can't other than do that- as long as we live!

"Joy is the purpose of your life. But it is an option!" -Abe

We came for the fun, for the joy, in this huge adventure-park. We knew, we wouldn't get it "perfect", and we would need a lot of training until we are masters. AND that, also, could be joyful! As Abe say, we intended to be about 5% of our time in Step 1, and the rest in Step 3 -but according to Abe, we humans have that turned around. But it must not be that way.

Anyway, all this goals are carrots that we really want to tick off (or eat, or sleep with or drive) that draw us through life, and that is perfectly fine.
But the TRUE GOAL is to have fun.

Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 7:05 am
"Joy is the purpose of your life. But it is an option!" -Abe

But the TRUE GOAL is to have fun.

It is not a good trait to question everything. I know. I have thoughts and the belief, that there is such a thing as fate. There are children and young adults who already lead a life that I wish for in a similar way. What do they do differently? Are they alwasy happy ? No, of course not.

There was the German-language Abeforum and the owner "Loa" lived in Brazil for a long time and wrote once, that the poorest of the poor seemed extremely happy and were always smiling. They had nothing than a cardboard box to sleep. I do not know whether their joy of life made them rich and whether they ever had a roof over their heads. Aber this image is probably too firmly anchored in my head .

POE it was so lovely to read and be reminded of this. You really are an angel. I could relate a lot to what Awa was saying and your words have helped me. Thank you, TJ

Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:38 pm Hi and , Awa!

"You get what you feel".
Which means, what manifests (or not) is the INDICATOR of your vibe- and, really, I would take not only physical stuff into consideration, but first and foremost EMOTIONS. Your MOOD.

If you will let your standard of success be your achievement of joy
everything else will fall easily into place.
For in the finding of joy, you are finding vibrational alignment
with the resources of the Universe.

- Abraham


When you "achieve" joy, you really do not care so much about the stuff. Of course you still WANT it (and you ought to get it!) -but you will like, and enjoy the JOURNEY towards it.
When you do not achieve joy, then nothing makes sense. Even if you would get stuff, big times- it wouldn't be meaningful!

But most people never really grab this. They are bummed out, because their stuff doesn't come. And in that ornery stance, they CAN NOT attract good feeling stuff- and, duh, they are not joyful to begin with.

So it's up to you if you care SO MUCH for being joyful (or even for playing Abes silly game where you need to "pay" for your stuff with joy)- that you get willing to put in the necessary work, discipline and training to get a handle on your focus, and choose day by day, moment by moment what feels a bit better NOW, and a bit better NOW and then a bit better, still. Getting fresher and more joyful and lively, more hopeful and eager up to passionate and authentically DEEPLY appreciative (even, still, without "big stuff"!)

And if this is not cutting it for you, and you don't pay this prices, you will automatically pay the price of same old, same old... of misery and boredom or even depression. But, it is a CHOICE. YOUR choice, only!
And you can choose new, in every moment, if you reaaaaallly want a new, different outcome.

Awa wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 7:53 am It is not a good trait to question everything. I know.

Nah, questions bring answers and solutions. That's a good thing!

What matters is, are you in vicinity to "get" the answers? But even if you aren't, you make your desires to understand and be clear BIGGER and give them more momentum, and so, somewhen, you WILL get them!

I have thoughts and the belief, that there is such a thing as fate.

There IS "fate"- in the way that you choose already before you come in, how and where and when and with whom you incarnate. That is some pretty big momentum already (while, again- you CHOSE that).

Also, nobody is a clean slate. You have your Vortex (that never expires) and that IS sort of "fate"! This Vortex is your "destiny", as Abe once have put it. Because it never-endingly calls you, and you feel crappy when you don't go.

There are children and young adults who already lead a life that I wish for in a similar way. What do they do differently? Are they alwasy happy ? No, of course not.

Really, of course not! They are human as you are. And, you do not know about their desires, their calling, their plans! You have no way to really understand their life. But you could use them as inspiration!

There was the German-language Abeforum and the owner "Loa" lived in Brazil for a long time and wrote once, that the poorest of the poor seemed extremely happy and were always smiling. They had nothing than a cardboard box to sleep. I do not know whether their joy of life made them rich and whether they ever had a roof over their heads.

Abe explain this with the fact, that people have VERY different Vortexes. In some peoples life (especially souls that did not yet have many incarnations) the Vortex doesn't contain much money, special cars, very sophisticated housing, etc. They want- as a small child, simply to be surrounded by nice people, have enough food and some shelter! They also get born often into countries where they don't experience much contrast in that- where most of the people they get in touch with, live in the same way. So- as long life doesn't cause them to desire more, and they have access to what is in their Vortex, they are VERY happy!

What an easy explanation, right?

Aber this image is probably too firmly anchored in my head .

(what a sweet German glitch!)

Ask yourself how it FEELS?
Because everything that is "firmly anchored" within you, is just there because you keep re-activating, "refreshing" it so to speak. If you don't want that, and you want something else that feels better to be firmly anchored, activate THAT instead. It simply takes decision and then training!

tjuk wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 10:37 am POE it was so lovely to read and be reminded of this. You really are an angel. I could relate a lot to what Awa was saying and your words have helped me. Thank you, TJ

Aww, how nice and loving that you tell this to me! it is so very much appreciated!

tjuk wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 10:37 am POE it was so lovely to read and be reminded of this. You really are an angel. I could relate a lot to what Awa was saying and your words have helped me. Thank you, TJ

Yes, I can't get enough of PoE, either . The journey with her is simply fantastic, magical and sometimes I get a little dizzy. But it is always uplifting and helpful.

Thank you for your kind words, tjuk.

Hopefully many people can benefit from our exchange here.

Awa wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 3:01 pm
Yes, I can't get enough of PoE, either . The journey with her is simply fantastic, magical and sometimes I get a little dizzy. But it is always uplifting and helpful.


Hopefully many people can benefit from our exchange here.

ohhh wow!!

YES I hope this, too!

Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 12:56 pm Nah, questions bring answers and solutions. That's a good thing!

Exactly. And clarity.

Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 12:56 pm What matters is, are you in vicinity to "get" the answers? But even if you aren't, you make your desires to understand and be clear BIGGER and give them more momentum, and so, somewhen, you WILL get them!

So nothing is lost and even the time we spend in sorrow, worry, argument, anger, impatience or boredom or perhaps poverty is not wasted but makes the vortex bigger and bigger.

Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 12:56 pm There IS "fate"- in the way that you choose already before you come in, how and where and when and with whom you incarnate. That is some pretty big momentum already (while, again- you CHOSE that).

Often unconsciously, sloppily, kind of on the side, right? Consciously, no child would choose violence. To my understanding, at least.

I'm not as decisive and think long and hard before deciding on a pair of sandals, for example, like yesterday. And today I exchanged them. Luckily I bought a 2nd pair straight away. I'll probably keep “those”.

Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 12:56 pm Also, nobody is a clean slate. You have your Vortex (that never expires) and that IS sort of "fate"! This Vortex is your "destiny", as Abe once have put it. Because it never-endingly calls you, and you feel crappy when you don't go.

That sounds good. I could relax into it and trust that things will work out. Even without my active involvement. The work is done, man. Why am I just wobbling around like this? That's childish or inspiring

Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 12:56 pm Abe explain this with the fact, that people have VERY different Vortexes. In some peoples life (especially souls that did not yet have many incarnations) the Vortex doesn't contain much money, special cars, very sophisticated housing, etc. They want- as a small child, simply to be surrounded by nice people, have enough food and some shelter! They also get born often into countries where they don't experience much contrast in that- where most of the people they get in touch with, live in the same way. So- as long life doesn't cause them to desire more, and they have access to what is in their Vortex, they are VERY happy!

What an easy explanation, right?

That makes sense.

Awa wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 7:53 am Aber this image is probably too firmly anchored in my head .

Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 12:56 pm (what a sweet German glitch!)

Jawohl.

Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 12:56 pm Ask yourself how it FEELS?
Because everything that is "firmly anchored" within you, is just there because you keep re-activating, "refreshing" it so to speak. If you don't want that, and you want something else that feels better to be firmly anchored, activate THAT instead. It simply takes decision and then training!

Maybe I need a few more repetitions than others, but once I get the hang of it, it flows.

Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 4:51 pm

Awa wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 3:01 pm
Yes, I can't get enough of PoE, either . The journey with her is simply fantastic, magical and sometimes I get a little dizzy. But it is always uplifting and helpful.


Hopefully many people can benefit from our exchange here.

ohhh wow!!

YES I hope this, too!

At first, I want to add HOW much your little rampage has touched me! I shared it yesterday with my family, and really enjoyed the look on their faces, after hearing it...
Thank you once more for showing me your appreciation! It means a lot to me!

And vice versa, your questions, combined with your energy is SUCH a joy to bounce off from, and let answers flow through me, because of it. We truly are in this, together!