How to get from a restistant mentally ill mind to a healthy one?
How to get from a restistant mentally ill mind to a healthy one?
Hi, I'd love to get some new perspectives on this topic
Basically my mind seems to be stuck in believing, that I'm powerless and defenseless and that I need to avoid everything and everyone that could 'hurt' me. Which means I avoid every single human being (even seeing or hearing them. Writing is somewhat doable). This belief has also spread on to most parts of my life and manifested unwanted stuff. I also assume I could be one of these people that are more resistant than others, which Abraham spoke of. That would explain my angry reactions towards unwanted things since I was a little child and why it seems so challenging to change my thinking patterns.
I've tried practicing with the Abraham teachings and similar techniques. I also did therapy in which I learned to feel my feelings instead of avoiding them. So far it's been nearly ten years and at least I improved my thinking habits to be more positive. But it's like a cycle. I can do a technique for max. a few weeks, before I end up struggling, despairing with what-is and have depression. A part of me believes that techniques like imagining yourself being confident and in a good mood while being with other people, can help in becoming my true self. But that other part is doubting and resisting. I carefully have to find ways around this resistance so I can try out some techniques and practice feeling better. I wish I could stop believing these negative thoughts and stop them altogether. And be the ruler of my mind. There's also a belief that my situation is so bad, it needs a miracle to get back to be my true self and to live a meaningful life.
I found out, that I need to learn the prerequisites first. For example how to speak nicely to myself. How to tap into unconditional love and see myself from that perspective. How to make peace with what-is. How to get my mind carefully accustomed to visualize positive scenarios of the future. It's like having to deal with a scared dictator in my mind. - I know, that's also just a belief.
So far I've found Abraham talking to therapists about people that are so resistant and lost their trust so that they withdrew from society/reality (the examples were homeless alcoholics and schizophrenic people). I can relate to that and wonder how to get back that trust. I want to be my true self and I want to be with other people. I know there's a part of me that is the opposite of who I've become and it drives me crazy, that I just can't jump back into it. I'd love to practice myself into happiness and being in alignment with my inner being, every day. But unfortunately that has always backfired.
Abraham recommended the therapists they spoke to, to be very friendly to people like this and offering to support them. I've been wishing for people like this, but I know my negative beliefs and fears of getting disappointed again, have been blocking this manifestation.
What Abraham say makes so much sense to me. Like focusing on positive aspects, feel more ease, etc. But when I want to put this into practice, it's like running against a wall of resistance. And when I want to take tiny baby steps, my mind believes, that's not getting me anywhere. 'I need to get it right, make progress fast, be perfect' are thoughts that come up. Ha, it's so frustrating.
I want to be proud of all the steps I've already taken forward. I've definitely made progress. And some positive things have manifested. How can I get my mind to let that be enough? How can I make peace with everything?
Also how can I have hope, when my body has been physically ill and in pain 24/7 for years now? But I know that's just another manifestation of the 'I'm powerless belief'
So, if you have any ideas or maybe experiences, I'd appreciate your input
Basically my mind seems to be stuck in believing, that I'm powerless and defenseless and that I need to avoid everything and everyone that could 'hurt' me. Which means I avoid every single human being (even seeing or hearing them. Writing is somewhat doable). This belief has also spread on to most parts of my life and manifested unwanted stuff. I also assume I could be one of these people that are more resistant than others, which Abraham spoke of. That would explain my angry reactions towards unwanted things since I was a little child and why it seems so challenging to change my thinking patterns.
I've tried practicing with the Abraham teachings and similar techniques. I also did therapy in which I learned to feel my feelings instead of avoiding them. So far it's been nearly ten years and at least I improved my thinking habits to be more positive. But it's like a cycle. I can do a technique for max. a few weeks, before I end up struggling, despairing with what-is and have depression. A part of me believes that techniques like imagining yourself being confident and in a good mood while being with other people, can help in becoming my true self. But that other part is doubting and resisting. I carefully have to find ways around this resistance so I can try out some techniques and practice feeling better. I wish I could stop believing these negative thoughts and stop them altogether. And be the ruler of my mind. There's also a belief that my situation is so bad, it needs a miracle to get back to be my true self and to live a meaningful life.
I found out, that I need to learn the prerequisites first. For example how to speak nicely to myself. How to tap into unconditional love and see myself from that perspective. How to make peace with what-is. How to get my mind carefully accustomed to visualize positive scenarios of the future. It's like having to deal with a scared dictator in my mind. - I know, that's also just a belief.
So far I've found Abraham talking to therapists about people that are so resistant and lost their trust so that they withdrew from society/reality (the examples were homeless alcoholics and schizophrenic people). I can relate to that and wonder how to get back that trust. I want to be my true self and I want to be with other people. I know there's a part of me that is the opposite of who I've become and it drives me crazy, that I just can't jump back into it. I'd love to practice myself into happiness and being in alignment with my inner being, every day. But unfortunately that has always backfired.
Abraham recommended the therapists they spoke to, to be very friendly to people like this and offering to support them. I've been wishing for people like this, but I know my negative beliefs and fears of getting disappointed again, have been blocking this manifestation.
What Abraham say makes so much sense to me. Like focusing on positive aspects, feel more ease, etc. But when I want to put this into practice, it's like running against a wall of resistance. And when I want to take tiny baby steps, my mind believes, that's not getting me anywhere. 'I need to get it right, make progress fast, be perfect' are thoughts that come up. Ha, it's so frustrating.
I want to be proud of all the steps I've already taken forward. I've definitely made progress. And some positive things have manifested. How can I get my mind to let that be enough? How can I make peace with everything?
Also how can I have hope, when my body has been physically ill and in pain 24/7 for years now? But I know that's just another manifestation of the 'I'm powerless belief'
So, if you have any ideas or maybe experiences, I'd appreciate your input
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Re: How to get from a restistant mentally ill mind to a healthy one?
Hi Layshii!
I applaude your braveness to seek help and to point out what doesn't work for you! That is such a big part of getting better, to begin with. When we do not acknowledge a problem, we can not solve it. And so, you can!
I know you know this yourself, as your words make very clear that you do understand how all of this works- but it really is about small, "organic" steps. Nobody can jump from depression and misery into bliss. It IS about the famous "Babysteps", in any way that works for YOU!
"You are where you are- and that must be ok." (Abe). Make peace with "the holes in your trailer", as I qoted a very wise women recently on another thread! It all has it's beauty. Wherever you are- it is always the PERFECT stance, for who you are in the very moment. And when you stop pushing against it, you see it.
Depression forces you to relax (in Depression, nothing else than sleep and breathing, works).
Sadness allows you to cry (which big times releases resistances from all of your body, and also, through your tears, it detoxes you).
Rage lets you breathe again. It is your life-guard that holds up a border that others better don't cross!
Anger points you to finally listen to what you WANT!
And so on!
ALLOW yourself to simply be where you are! When you do that, life lifts you ALL ON ITS OWN, higher and higher. Like a cork that was pressed under water, as soon you let go of it, bobs back to the surface.
And I want to add (as this is such a common problem in our "modern" lives-) "motivation" never really works. Right with any process, that you "should" do! Motivation is action-journey, instead of Alignment. What works ins Inspiration, but this can only come when you are in vicinity to being relaxed, in peace somehow. Nothing of all this needs to be perfect. Just close enough- so that you feel a tiny bit relief. And then again, as soon you feel like taking the next step in relief! Don't work on this. Just be nicer to yourself! Treat yourself more and more, as you would have wished it from your parents, or your siblings. Here you get a second chance: What you (probably) did not get as a child, now give it to yourself!
Care to understand yourself (instead of blaming, kicking and nagging). Care to pamper yourself, give yourself little surprise- gifts. Care to feed you with what you LIKE. Care to sleep as much as you would desire! Care to wear the clothes that really fit and are comfortable, in colors that soothe... or uplift you. All this "normal", little things!
Relax and expect things to unfold.
"Relax and enjoy what comes." (Abe) ...without judgement: Just embrace it. Together with yourself.
I applaude your braveness to seek help and to point out what doesn't work for you! That is such a big part of getting better, to begin with. When we do not acknowledge a problem, we can not solve it. And so, you can!
I know you know this yourself, as your words make very clear that you do understand how all of this works- but it really is about small, "organic" steps. Nobody can jump from depression and misery into bliss. It IS about the famous "Babysteps", in any way that works for YOU!
"You are where you are- and that must be ok." (Abe). Make peace with "the holes in your trailer", as I qoted a very wise women recently on another thread! It all has it's beauty. Wherever you are- it is always the PERFECT stance, for who you are in the very moment. And when you stop pushing against it, you see it.
Depression forces you to relax (in Depression, nothing else than sleep and breathing, works).
Sadness allows you to cry (which big times releases resistances from all of your body, and also, through your tears, it detoxes you).
Rage lets you breathe again. It is your life-guard that holds up a border that others better don't cross!
Anger points you to finally listen to what you WANT!
And so on!
ALLOW yourself to simply be where you are! When you do that, life lifts you ALL ON ITS OWN, higher and higher. Like a cork that was pressed under water, as soon you let go of it, bobs back to the surface.
And I want to add (as this is such a common problem in our "modern" lives-) "motivation" never really works. Right with any process, that you "should" do! Motivation is action-journey, instead of Alignment. What works ins Inspiration, but this can only come when you are in vicinity to being relaxed, in peace somehow. Nothing of all this needs to be perfect. Just close enough- so that you feel a tiny bit relief. And then again, as soon you feel like taking the next step in relief! Don't work on this. Just be nicer to yourself! Treat yourself more and more, as you would have wished it from your parents, or your siblings. Here you get a second chance: What you (probably) did not get as a child, now give it to yourself!
Care to understand yourself (instead of blaming, kicking and nagging). Care to pamper yourself, give yourself little surprise- gifts. Care to feed you with what you LIKE. Care to sleep as much as you would desire! Care to wear the clothes that really fit and are comfortable, in colors that soothe... or uplift you. All this "normal", little things!
Relax and expect things to unfold.
"Relax and enjoy what comes." (Abe) ...without judgement: Just embrace it. Together with yourself.
Re: How to get from a restistant mentally ill mind to a healthy one?
Just shared some of my personal experiences.
Several years ago, I was in deep depression and made a decision which most people wouldn't understand would pity. I lost consciousness for at least 24 hours without any pain. But my Inner Being still wanted to live in this physical body and so I woke up. This was sorta numbness and actually better than my state before I took the action. Soon I went to a hospital, and got a dozen pills a day. My Inner Being's strong desire to be in this body must trumped a lot of stuff. I didn't put all my hope on medicine and actually I rarely thought about it until later on. I was not deliberately thinking about Abe teachings too though I was a long time learner. I was sorta naturally guided to do things that felt neutral, which were not dramatic at all. Though there were lots of reasons for me to be dramtic then and there. I just kept on watching dramas on my phone to kill my time even though I didn't feel much interest. I filled my mind with the stories, the plots. Sometimes, I would do a certain activity which needed attention and the coopration between eyes and hands. This kind of life lasted about 40 days and I began to worry that there would be no breakthrough anymore. I wanted to be interested in life. I want to just have interests. And I made the decision to go back home. And the new environment and new activities immediately ignited my interests and even eagerness in the first several days. Then gradually, I was called back to Abe teachings and to purposefully practice Abe teachings on different subjects, including reducing the medicine MY ALIGNED WAY without being bothered by opinions of the doctor and my parents.
Looking back, when I was very low, I forgot Abe teachings and I sorta was forced to walk other paths which were still beneficial. I had taken medicine for several years, and that's not a big deal at all. After all, our bodies are very powerful to recover and we can let go of medicine if we want to in a smooth way without any withdrawl symptom--I didn't have any.
In my opinions, when one is very low, Abe teachings would not that be resonating and practicable. And when one is not mainly feeling good, Bashar teachings are not that easy to follow.
Now, for the majority of my life, I feel interested and satisfied, though a lot of desires are still not manifested.
All things are possible. Keep searching any method that may be benefial to you and practice it for some time like a month. It it doesn't work, search and try another one. There was a period of time when I was passionately searching for ways/methods to be passionate about my life. Which led me to many teachers and then Abe, and then Bashar.
Wish you the best.
Several years ago, I was in deep depression and made a decision which most people wouldn't understand would pity. I lost consciousness for at least 24 hours without any pain. But my Inner Being still wanted to live in this physical body and so I woke up. This was sorta numbness and actually better than my state before I took the action. Soon I went to a hospital, and got a dozen pills a day. My Inner Being's strong desire to be in this body must trumped a lot of stuff. I didn't put all my hope on medicine and actually I rarely thought about it until later on. I was not deliberately thinking about Abe teachings too though I was a long time learner. I was sorta naturally guided to do things that felt neutral, which were not dramatic at all. Though there were lots of reasons for me to be dramtic then and there. I just kept on watching dramas on my phone to kill my time even though I didn't feel much interest. I filled my mind with the stories, the plots. Sometimes, I would do a certain activity which needed attention and the coopration between eyes and hands. This kind of life lasted about 40 days and I began to worry that there would be no breakthrough anymore. I wanted to be interested in life. I want to just have interests. And I made the decision to go back home. And the new environment and new activities immediately ignited my interests and even eagerness in the first several days. Then gradually, I was called back to Abe teachings and to purposefully practice Abe teachings on different subjects, including reducing the medicine MY ALIGNED WAY without being bothered by opinions of the doctor and my parents.
Looking back, when I was very low, I forgot Abe teachings and I sorta was forced to walk other paths which were still beneficial. I had taken medicine for several years, and that's not a big deal at all. After all, our bodies are very powerful to recover and we can let go of medicine if we want to in a smooth way without any withdrawl symptom--I didn't have any.
In my opinions, when one is very low, Abe teachings would not that be resonating and practicable. And when one is not mainly feeling good, Bashar teachings are not that easy to follow.
Now, for the majority of my life, I feel interested and satisfied, though a lot of desires are still not manifested.
All things are possible. Keep searching any method that may be benefial to you and practice it for some time like a month. It it doesn't work, search and try another one. There was a period of time when I was passionately searching for ways/methods to be passionate about my life. Which led me to many teachers and then Abe, and then Bashar.
Wish you the best.
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I love your post, Jenny! And I so agree!
When I got into Depression -I got there probably by a bold habit of trying too hard in ALL topics, trying to save those around me, making everyone happy, somehow being a perfectionist-, nothing worked for me than being VERY NUMB for a while and letting it all slip. I COULD NOT care anymore for what I "should" do. It was mentally and physically impossible.
And really, that is exactly what Abe teach in this stance: When you are very OOTV, don't talk, don't think, don't take ANY big decisions. Shut up and sleep and breathe. And I found that easy to follow, theoretically. But old habits die hard- and THAT is what takes us so long to recover.
Jenny, it inspired me to read how you got "out"! THANK YOU! I want to (very thankful for my guidance that led me MY way...) ponder my path, as well... maybe it serves someone, also
I gradually got out of the VERY dark stances, by starting to see the humorous sides in my misery. I wrote funny essays about what had me in pure disempowerment, before. I started to show "people" (those that used to critizise, blame and judge me) the middle finger, so to speak. I often have stated that the role of Captain Jack, from Pirates of the Caribbean, would have saved my life. In some point, I got inspired to cosplay him (at least a bit!). I started to simply not CARE, literally, what they thought (what was maybe the most helpful step). I started to wear Jewelry... as the wedding ring of my Great-Grand-father, on my thumb. I started to wear colors. I even realized that I shifted from having been Enneagram-number 2, into Enneagram-number 7! I LET OUT MY UNIQUENESS, and I showed my children, that I could be funny (they had thought before I would be the worst party-pooper that existed...).
I realized how intensely the true Me was buried under all sorts of "should", "must", "have to", "can't"! My true Me seemed lazy (I simply cared so much about other things than what I "should"). My true Me was not decent. I was bold, loud, intense, passionate, not always taking in consideration what others probably (!) preferred. My true Me didn't hold back. I yelled at the mean neighbor, and covered the black truck of another neighbor in the night with hundreds of tiny blue paper-flowers. My true Me blocked her Mother in Law on whats-app and Instagram, even I understand where she comes from- I don't need permanent poisonous comments in my life. My true Me lets me make "mistakes", and when I smile about them, I feel what Freedom REALLY is!
Ah, that felt good!!
When I got into Depression -I got there probably by a bold habit of trying too hard in ALL topics, trying to save those around me, making everyone happy, somehow being a perfectionist-, nothing worked for me than being VERY NUMB for a while and letting it all slip. I COULD NOT care anymore for what I "should" do. It was mentally and physically impossible.
And really, that is exactly what Abe teach in this stance: When you are very OOTV, don't talk, don't think, don't take ANY big decisions. Shut up and sleep and breathe. And I found that easy to follow, theoretically. But old habits die hard- and THAT is what takes us so long to recover.
Jenny, it inspired me to read how you got "out"! THANK YOU! I want to (very thankful for my guidance that led me MY way...) ponder my path, as well... maybe it serves someone, also
I gradually got out of the VERY dark stances, by starting to see the humorous sides in my misery. I wrote funny essays about what had me in pure disempowerment, before. I started to show "people" (those that used to critizise, blame and judge me) the middle finger, so to speak. I often have stated that the role of Captain Jack, from Pirates of the Caribbean, would have saved my life. In some point, I got inspired to cosplay him (at least a bit!). I started to simply not CARE, literally, what they thought (what was maybe the most helpful step). I started to wear Jewelry... as the wedding ring of my Great-Grand-father, on my thumb. I started to wear colors. I even realized that I shifted from having been Enneagram-number 2, into Enneagram-number 7! I LET OUT MY UNIQUENESS, and I showed my children, that I could be funny (they had thought before I would be the worst party-pooper that existed...).
I realized how intensely the true Me was buried under all sorts of "should", "must", "have to", "can't"! My true Me seemed lazy (I simply cared so much about other things than what I "should"). My true Me was not decent. I was bold, loud, intense, passionate, not always taking in consideration what others probably (!) preferred. My true Me didn't hold back. I yelled at the mean neighbor, and covered the black truck of another neighbor in the night with hundreds of tiny blue paper-flowers. My true Me blocked her Mother in Law on whats-app and Instagram, even I understand where she comes from- I don't need permanent poisonous comments in my life. My true Me lets me make "mistakes", and when I smile about them, I feel what Freedom REALLY is!
Ah, that felt good!!
Re: How to get from a restistant mentally ill mind to a healthy one?
Thank you for your beautiful answers I'll think about them some more. I realized, I was trying to solve the problems head on (again). Which seems to make sense, when my mind believes that I won't get myself to be open and attract solutions. But struggling is not the way to go.
Currently I'm vibing to a new song that I found. That feels best right now
Today in the morning I also was in a high vibration. I felt the discomfort in my body, thought about the parts that are in dis-ease and was in a good mood. I thought, these parts will get better. Everything is okay. And in that moment I knew, it was. I looked in the mirror and thought about how beautiful I look. I saw all the positive aspects about myself and appreciated them naturally. When I went grocery shopping the people were so nice and friendly. An elderly woman was overjoyed to see a little dog in a bicycle trailer and talked to it like to a child. She was so sweet and funny. I love these kind of manifestations that reflect being in a higher vibration
Currently I'm vibing to a new song that I found. That feels best right now
OMG, I love this so much! I have moments, in which I see everything from the perspective of my true self. And my true self is such a funny goofball that doesn't take things seriously. Then everything is so easy and fun. I really love being this 'me'. Maybe I could 'cosplay' as my true self, haha. I'll play around with these ideas some more.I gradually got out of the VERY dark stances, by starting to see the humorous sides in my misery. I wrote funny essays about what had me in pure disempowerment, before. I started to show "people" (those that used to critizise, blame and judge me) the middle finger, so to speak. I often have stated that the role of Captain Jack, from Pirates of the Caribbean, would have saved my life. In some point, I got inspired to cosplay him (at least a bit!). I started to simply not CARE, literally, what they thought (what was maybe the most helpful step).
Today in the morning I also was in a high vibration. I felt the discomfort in my body, thought about the parts that are in dis-ease and was in a good mood. I thought, these parts will get better. Everything is okay. And in that moment I knew, it was. I looked in the mirror and thought about how beautiful I look. I saw all the positive aspects about myself and appreciated them naturally. When I went grocery shopping the people were so nice and friendly. An elderly woman was overjoyed to see a little dog in a bicycle trailer and talked to it like to a child. She was so sweet and funny. I love these kind of manifestations that reflect being in a higher vibration
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Oh wow, this sounds awesome!! Really REALLY good! Keep it up- when this comes EASY! And when it feels like work- just let it go, and breathe and maybe sleep, again. Life is supposed to be FUN, and if this doesn't flow, just don't club yourself over the head!Layshii wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:58 pm Thank you for your beautiful answers I'll think about them some more. I realized, I was trying to solve the problems head on (again). Which seems to make sense, when my mind believes that I won't get myself to be open and attract solutions. But struggling is not the way to go.
Currently I'm vibing to a new song that I found. That feels best right now
OMG, I love this so much! I have moments, in which I see everything from the perspective of my true self. And my true self is such a funny goofball that doesn't take things seriously. Then everything is so easy and fun. I really love being this 'me'. Maybe I could 'cosplay' as my true self, haha. I'll play around with these ideas some more.I gradually got out of the VERY dark stances, by starting to see the humorous sides in my misery. I wrote funny essays about what had me in pure disempowerment, before. I started to show "people" (those that used to critizise, blame and judge me) the middle finger, so to speak. I often have stated that the role of Captain Jack, from Pirates of the Caribbean, would have saved my life. In some point, I got inspired to cosplay him (at least a bit!). I started to simply not CARE, literally, what they thought (what was maybe the most helpful step).
Today in the morning I also was in a high vibration. I felt the discomfort in my body, thought about the parts that are in dis-ease and was in a good mood. I thought, these parts will get better. Everything is okay. And in that moment I knew, it was. I looked in the mirror and thought about how beautiful I look. I saw all the positive aspects about myself and appreciated them naturally. When I went grocery shopping the people were so nice and friendly. An elderly woman was overjoyed to see a little dog in a bicycle trailer and talked to it like to a child. She was so sweet and funny. I love these kind of manifestations that reflect being in a higher vibration
I LOVE this!! This sounds as an awesome "best friend"! (see quote below)my true self is such a funny goofball
So, when we hear you say:
"I want to romp more with my Inner Being. I'm wanting to more know what it's like!"
-We say:
"Your Inner Being is an unlimited friend,
who is always fun, and always feels good. And you are wanting to be as much in sync
with that good friend, as you possibly could be."
Abraham, Sacrament CA, 03-15-03
(quote from the thread "Inner Being" in the Quote-Subforum)
Re: How to get from a restistant mentally ill mind to a healthy one?
Thank you I love the feeling of ease. I recently thought about some things that feel easy and good. Like writing on a keyboard. So EASY. So FUN. Using a mouse, using the scroll wheel, clicking buttons, navigating websites, so EASY, it's awesome, hahaOh wow, this sounds awesome!! Really REALLY good! Keep it up- when this comes EASY! And when it feels like work- just let it go, and breathe and maybe sleep, again. Life is supposed to be FUN, and if this doesn't flow, just don't club yourself over the head!
This is awesome! I love itI LOVE this!! This sounds as an awesome "best friend"! (see quote below)
So, when we hear you say:
"I want to romp more with my Inner Being. I'm wanting to more know what it's like!"
-We say:
"Your Inner Being is an unlimited friend,
who is always fun, and always feels good. And you are wanting to be as much in sync
with that good friend, as you possibly could be."
Abraham, Sacrament CA, 03-15-03
(quote from the thread "Inner Being" in the Quote-Subforum)
I've now renamed them 'normal steps' for myself. This feels so much betterI know you know this yourself, as your words make very clear that you do understand how all of this works- but it really is about small, "organic" steps. Nobody can jump from depression and misery into bliss. It IS about the famous "Babysteps", in any way that works for YOU!
I've been practicing for a few weeks writing down good feelings. I did that already in the past and had some really astonishing changes. So I was expecting these kind of changes this time, too. And I got angry, when it didn't happen. Now I realize, that I'm on the right track nonetheless. And I see that changes have already occurred. In the past the changes were big jumps and temporarily. They backfired in the end. This time it's gradual changes that seem to be long lasting. So I'll just continue with reaching for better and good feelings and think of this kind of progress not as 'slow', but as normal Yeah, that feels good
That's were I feel a bit stuck. I'm looking at what-is, at circumstances, society, etc. and am thinking: 'I don't want that. But I don't believe that I'll get what I want. I'd have to either believe the whole word changes for me or to teleport to a whole different world' I remember Abraham also saying 'People are judgemental. Get over it!' And I've been wondering how to do that. But the answer is simple. My true self loves this world. It wants to play in it. It wants to play with people together. It sees this place as a fun place to be in and it likes people."You are where you are- and that must be ok." (Abe). Make peace with "the holes in your trailer", as I qoted a very wise women recently on another thread! It all has it's beauty. Wherever you are- it is always the PERFECT stance, for who you are in the very moment. And when you stop pushing against it, you see it.
So how do I become my true self? Maybe by continuing my practice of feeling good. And like you said, following my inner guidance, following what feels good now.
Some years ago I practiced feeling peaceful and accepting everything for a month. After that I experienced my health becoming much better. I felt sooo good. It lasted a day. Then I was back at being unhealthy again and got resistant about it. (like in the example I wrote before) Looking back I see now, that I was on the right track. And my health getting better was proof of that. Reaching for the feelings of peace or being in a good mood is the way to go. Because feeling better, let's me automatically look at positive aspects more. And that also helps with making peace with unwanted. So instead of trying to force myself to make peace, I'd like to reach for better feelings and let it happen naturally
Exactly! That feels goodJust be nicer to yourself! Treat yourself more and more, as you would have wished it from your parents, or your siblings. Here you get a second chance: What you (probably) did not get as a child, now give it to yourself!
Care to understand yourself (instead of blaming, kicking and nagging). Care to pamper yourself, give yourself little surprise- gifts. Care to feed you with what you LIKE. Care to sleep as much as you would desire! Care to wear the clothes that really fit and are comfortable, in colors that soothe... or uplift you. All this "normal", little things!
Relax and expect things to unfold.
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Wow... that is true!! I never thought of it in this way, but you are so right!!! I loooove to ponder this now, as well!
I've now renamed them 'normal steps' for myself. This feels so much better
I've been practicing for a few weeks writing down good feelings. I did that already in the past and had some really astonishing changes. So I was expecting these kind of changes this time, too. And I got angry, when it didn't happen. Now I realize, that I'm on the right track nonetheless. And I see that changes have already occurred. In the past the changes were big jumps and temporarily. They backfired in the end. This time it's gradual changes that seem to be long lasting. So I'll just continue with reaching for better and good feelings and think of this kind of progress not as 'slow', but as normal Yeah, that feels good
Exactly! Abe teach (and it is so logical) that ALL our resistances and hold-backs root in our judgement aka belief, that there are things that really are bad. In truth, they all help us. They help us to become clear, to decipher what we prefer etc. And some just do things THEIR unique way, that we don't understand- and don't need to understand, because this is a world of freedom, where everyone gets to have their unique Paradise. As my Greatgrandmother used to say: "The cat loves to eat mice. I don't." -And that can be the end of the story! We do NOT need to understand everything!That's were I feel a bit stuck. I'm looking at what-is, at circumstances, society, etc. and am thinking: 'I don't want that. But I don't believe that I'll get what I want. I'd have to either believe the whole word changes for me or to teleport to a whole different world' I remember Abraham also saying 'People are judgemental. Get over it!' And I've been wondering how to do that. But the answer is simple. My true self loves this world. It wants to play in it. It wants to play with people together. It sees this place as a fun place to be in and it likes people.
Exactly! I transcribed yesterday a youtube-clip, that is about exactly this. Maybe you like it, I post it in the next reply to not mix up this one Until then, mayb you like this image?So how do I become my true self? Maybe by continuing my practice of feeling good. And like you said, following my inner guidance, following what feels good now.
This is mastery.Some years ago I practiced feeling peaceful and accepting everything for a month. After that I experienced my health becoming much better. I felt sooo good. It lasted a day. Then I was back at being unhealthy again and got resistant about it. (like in the example I wrote before) Looking back I see now, that I was on the right track. And my health getting better was proof of that. Reaching for the feelings of peace or being in a good mood is the way to go. Because feeling better, let's me automatically look at positive aspects more. And that also helps with making peace with unwanted. So instead of trying to force myself to make peace, I'd like to reach for better feelings and let it happen naturally
And I am certain, that we deliberately come here and try things out that backfire, to DELIBERATELY understand what really works, and what not!
I am certain that some people (and especially those who are attracted to Spirituality which IS the science of understanding life in ALL ways, and especially special those who are fond of Abraham who call us students "the teachers of teachers") COME HERE to become spiritual masters. "Getting their stuff" and being healthy and sound is less fascinating to them, compared to UNDERSTANDING THIS TOPICS! You seem to be one of them, am I right?
We are willing to wade through the muck, to UNDERSTAND. We are willing to try again and again, to become CLEAR. And when we are- THAT is our triumph.
Are you aware of Abe's teaching of Step 4 (you seem beyond it!) and step 5? I have an inkling, that they would explain some hiccups to you. I was already able to re-collect some of the quotes of step 5, that got lost with the old Forum. You find them in the Quote-collection! When you google youtube with the term "Step 5" and "Abraham Hicks", you also should find tons of very good stuff.
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Re: How to get from a restistant mentally ill mind to a healthy one?
What is the "I"?
HS:
Hi Abraham!
Abe:
Adjust that microphone, just a little bit for you...
HS:
A little closer, okay...
Abe:
She hardly ever knocks anyone's teeth out!
HS (laughing):
I'm relieved to hear that! And it's kind of the issue for me, as I'm right on the edge of getting what you're talking about, and losing it, and where I sort of go with this... who or what or where is this "I"? The "I" that I've heard one of my teachers said, was "the losers in the cosmic rap game, we get to be human and forget who we really are." Or, Abraham implies that I am aware of 5% of who I really am. So, "I" is to me the observer, or what? How do I know myself? I'm aware of my thoughts. I'm aware of listening to you. I don't... I is somewhere floating around, in your kind of a concept. For me... I'm not sure it's it's a place? It seems like it's real when I say "I". I guess. I understand what I'm talking about, but also I think the I is, when I studied to be a priest for a while, I was pleased to hear that in the word of the language Aramaic, that Jesus spoke,
the word for sin meant "to miss the target". It didn't mean you were bad, it just meant you missed the bullseye.
Just you know when you know who you really are. Then there's no sin. So, sinners just don't know who they really are! -When you know who you really are, then you are all of it, or...
Abe:
Sin is: The literal expression of sin is "just without the fullness of who I am".
And it doesn't mean that you have done something wrong, and so someone else is withholding from you something, in punishment. It means that, in your vibrational state of being, you are disallowing the fullness of who you are.
So we make it sort of complicated when we try to identify as... let us start in this way. When we visit with you, and you have been present in gatherings, you know what it feels like. We always enjoy coming together! You dragged your physical bodies here, and you've been grappling with life. You've been trying to wrestle your kids to the ground, and get them to do what you need them to do, and, and, and. So, always as you gather, there's a lot of stuff going on, vibrationally, in a gathering like this. And then, as we begin to play together, and as we ramble from our point of alignment, with all that you really are, as you are kind enough to join us worldwide, over a hundred countries coming to play with us in these broadcasts, these days... as you come with your bodies, as you come with your mind, as you come with your focus- and we we ramble and you focus, as we speak from the point of view of who you really are, you can't spend too much time listening to us. Really, ten minutes is enough, before you find resonance with the fullness of who you are!
And it's that feeling of resonance that we desire, that you begin reaching for rather than trying to to get glimpses in any other way. Just feel it!
You know when a feeling of clarity comes over you.
You know when that feeling of A-ha-ness comes.
You know when that feeling of comfort comes!
You know how when you just feel the allrightness with where you are, in any moment!
That's that resonance with the fullness of who you are!
And that's who you are. And anything less than that, is "without who you are".
It's some sort... and we don't like the word "sin", because it has been so misunderstood for so long! But anytime you deprive yourself, and only you can do it or pinch yourself off even a little bit- and only you can do it- from the fullness of who you are; anytime you're mad at somebody- even when they've done something really screwy and stupid- every time you're mad at them, you are without the viewpoint of source.
And you miss that the viewpoint of source! It's important to the way you feel in a moment.
It's important to who you are, because when source is being allowed by you in a moment, you just feel so good! You evoke the best from the moment. You just dance and fly high, and have fun, and have clarity- and that's the way you intend to live. Not one of you came to prove yourself worthy! It's such an interesting thing to watch humans line up with each other, in a comparative dance, feeling competition about each other. And in your competitive nature,
instead of inspiring each other to greatness, instead what you do is diminish your own greatness!
And you know it that's what that feeling of jealousy is?
A feeling of jealousy or a feeling of not enough this or a feeling of vulnerability, or a feeling of "I should be more than I am, and I need to be doing something different"... all of those feelings are feelings which are indicators of your discord. Which is depriving you to some degree, of the fullness of who you are.
So, that's why we begin today talking about the emotional manifestation! Because we think you're hitting upon the thing, that's the most important thing of all, and that is knowing who you are! But not just knowing who you are, being who you are!
Esther's been playing with emotional words, wanting for her herself personally, just sort of ferret out what they mean. And what they mean is only how they feel! And so, when she thinks of an emotion like "Hope", she can feel some vulnerability in hope. Because hope is... hope... is hopeful! Hope is not right there! Hope is not where the source within her is. Because source KNOWS.
So then she thinks about the word "Faith". Faith... faith feels like hope a little bit, to Esther. To some, faith feels more like more certainty. But to Esther, faith feels sort of hopeful! (...) Esther likes the feeling of Belief more than the feeling of Hope. She likes the feeling of Belief more than the feeling even of Faith! Because faith is sort of... she's heard so long "Faith"... faith, is about knowing something that you can't see. But the "you can't see it" part is too big for her. So it's still something missing. So, faith and hope don't feel as good as belief.
But, oh, "Trust." Now, that's a good feeling word! Trust. Trust and Knowing feel the same to Esther. "Knowing" feels the same, knowing and trust feel the same! Well, Knowing. Knowing feels even better to us, than trust! Because trust is... trust as a little outside of you! WE'RE KNOWING! And so, now we're using these words. We're using emotional words, because we're wanting to evoke vibration within you.
Because we want you to realize, that who you are is a vibrational feeler.
And when you come in a moment where you're having a conversation or an interaction with anyone in life, and you feel love, you feel appreciation, you feel elation, you feel passion, you feel that frisky, robust, passionate awareness of life- that's who you are.
So, we've taken this conversation completely away from the direction that you were putting it, because we don't want you to think you're way down there, so much as feel your way there. Because everything that you are, will bring about this responding feeling, you see! And what all of this conversation really rests on, what the basis of it is, is: You have to accept that you were Source Energy before you came into this physical body!
But that you still are Source Energy. And the source is right here, with you!
In other words, it's easy for some of you to witness Esther in this mode of allowing, and receiving Abraham. It's hard not to acknowledge, that something's going on, that is other than Esther's human experience. Her mind is working so fast, her vibrational frequency is so high, if you put a meter on her, it would freak you out in terms of what's going on, vibrationally.
Doctors would worry about her, if they were monitoring her in this moment! It is not a normal human experience, to be so aligned and so allowing, with so much source flowing through you!
But you are experiencing the same thing! In other words, Esther's doing the interpreting of that which we are. But you're out there, all around the world, feeling the fullness of who you are, reveling and resonating in this knowledge. So, as you feel this, do you feel the fullness of who you, are right now? Don't you just know that everything's alright with you? Aren't you feeling more sure, in every moment- even as we're focused here together, that you are Source Energy in physical bodies?
And don't you feel sort of eager to express the source-ness of yourself, in moment after moment? Aren't you feeling that more, than you did when you walked in the door? Aren't you feeling it more maybe, than you've ever felt it in your life? Or (teasing) maybe it's just us! Maybe! But what we're getting at here is: It's those feelings, that you're reaching for. That's the main event! That's always what you're reaching for!
Don't try too hard to figure it out. Don't try too hard to figure it out in terms of... of conversation. Don't try too hard to figure out what your point of view is! Just FEEL your point of view! And know, that your point of view, when you are really in sync with the wholeness of who you are, which is what your question is about and what you MUST experience! Because once you experienced it, you can't go back! Once you feel that, and KNOW that, you've FELT it- then just feel for it, again and again and again. And don't accept anything less than that!
Don't accept confusion, it's not who you are! Don't accept anger toward other humans- it's not who you are! Don't accept vulnerability, it's not who you are. When you feel it, know that it's not who you are, and feel yourself into alignment.
That's what we would do, if we were in your physical body.
from the clip Abraham Hicks - Define The Meaning Of Sin
HS:
Hi Abraham!
Abe:
Adjust that microphone, just a little bit for you...
HS:
A little closer, okay...
Abe:
She hardly ever knocks anyone's teeth out!
HS (laughing):
I'm relieved to hear that! And it's kind of the issue for me, as I'm right on the edge of getting what you're talking about, and losing it, and where I sort of go with this... who or what or where is this "I"? The "I" that I've heard one of my teachers said, was "the losers in the cosmic rap game, we get to be human and forget who we really are." Or, Abraham implies that I am aware of 5% of who I really am. So, "I" is to me the observer, or what? How do I know myself? I'm aware of my thoughts. I'm aware of listening to you. I don't... I is somewhere floating around, in your kind of a concept. For me... I'm not sure it's it's a place? It seems like it's real when I say "I". I guess. I understand what I'm talking about, but also I think the I is, when I studied to be a priest for a while, I was pleased to hear that in the word of the language Aramaic, that Jesus spoke,
the word for sin meant "to miss the target". It didn't mean you were bad, it just meant you missed the bullseye.
Just you know when you know who you really are. Then there's no sin. So, sinners just don't know who they really are! -When you know who you really are, then you are all of it, or...
Abe:
Sin is: The literal expression of sin is "just without the fullness of who I am".
And it doesn't mean that you have done something wrong, and so someone else is withholding from you something, in punishment. It means that, in your vibrational state of being, you are disallowing the fullness of who you are.
So we make it sort of complicated when we try to identify as... let us start in this way. When we visit with you, and you have been present in gatherings, you know what it feels like. We always enjoy coming together! You dragged your physical bodies here, and you've been grappling with life. You've been trying to wrestle your kids to the ground, and get them to do what you need them to do, and, and, and. So, always as you gather, there's a lot of stuff going on, vibrationally, in a gathering like this. And then, as we begin to play together, and as we ramble from our point of alignment, with all that you really are, as you are kind enough to join us worldwide, over a hundred countries coming to play with us in these broadcasts, these days... as you come with your bodies, as you come with your mind, as you come with your focus- and we we ramble and you focus, as we speak from the point of view of who you really are, you can't spend too much time listening to us. Really, ten minutes is enough, before you find resonance with the fullness of who you are!
And it's that feeling of resonance that we desire, that you begin reaching for rather than trying to to get glimpses in any other way. Just feel it!
You know when a feeling of clarity comes over you.
You know when that feeling of A-ha-ness comes.
You know when that feeling of comfort comes!
You know how when you just feel the allrightness with where you are, in any moment!
That's that resonance with the fullness of who you are!
And that's who you are. And anything less than that, is "without who you are".
It's some sort... and we don't like the word "sin", because it has been so misunderstood for so long! But anytime you deprive yourself, and only you can do it or pinch yourself off even a little bit- and only you can do it- from the fullness of who you are; anytime you're mad at somebody- even when they've done something really screwy and stupid- every time you're mad at them, you are without the viewpoint of source.
And you miss that the viewpoint of source! It's important to the way you feel in a moment.
It's important to who you are, because when source is being allowed by you in a moment, you just feel so good! You evoke the best from the moment. You just dance and fly high, and have fun, and have clarity- and that's the way you intend to live. Not one of you came to prove yourself worthy! It's such an interesting thing to watch humans line up with each other, in a comparative dance, feeling competition about each other. And in your competitive nature,
instead of inspiring each other to greatness, instead what you do is diminish your own greatness!
And you know it that's what that feeling of jealousy is?
A feeling of jealousy or a feeling of not enough this or a feeling of vulnerability, or a feeling of "I should be more than I am, and I need to be doing something different"... all of those feelings are feelings which are indicators of your discord. Which is depriving you to some degree, of the fullness of who you are.
So, that's why we begin today talking about the emotional manifestation! Because we think you're hitting upon the thing, that's the most important thing of all, and that is knowing who you are! But not just knowing who you are, being who you are!
Esther's been playing with emotional words, wanting for her herself personally, just sort of ferret out what they mean. And what they mean is only how they feel! And so, when she thinks of an emotion like "Hope", she can feel some vulnerability in hope. Because hope is... hope... is hopeful! Hope is not right there! Hope is not where the source within her is. Because source KNOWS.
So then she thinks about the word "Faith". Faith... faith feels like hope a little bit, to Esther. To some, faith feels more like more certainty. But to Esther, faith feels sort of hopeful! (...) Esther likes the feeling of Belief more than the feeling of Hope. She likes the feeling of Belief more than the feeling even of Faith! Because faith is sort of... she's heard so long "Faith"... faith, is about knowing something that you can't see. But the "you can't see it" part is too big for her. So it's still something missing. So, faith and hope don't feel as good as belief.
But, oh, "Trust." Now, that's a good feeling word! Trust. Trust and Knowing feel the same to Esther. "Knowing" feels the same, knowing and trust feel the same! Well, Knowing. Knowing feels even better to us, than trust! Because trust is... trust as a little outside of you! WE'RE KNOWING! And so, now we're using these words. We're using emotional words, because we're wanting to evoke vibration within you.
Because we want you to realize, that who you are is a vibrational feeler.
And when you come in a moment where you're having a conversation or an interaction with anyone in life, and you feel love, you feel appreciation, you feel elation, you feel passion, you feel that frisky, robust, passionate awareness of life- that's who you are.
So, we've taken this conversation completely away from the direction that you were putting it, because we don't want you to think you're way down there, so much as feel your way there. Because everything that you are, will bring about this responding feeling, you see! And what all of this conversation really rests on, what the basis of it is, is: You have to accept that you were Source Energy before you came into this physical body!
But that you still are Source Energy. And the source is right here, with you!
In other words, it's easy for some of you to witness Esther in this mode of allowing, and receiving Abraham. It's hard not to acknowledge, that something's going on, that is other than Esther's human experience. Her mind is working so fast, her vibrational frequency is so high, if you put a meter on her, it would freak you out in terms of what's going on, vibrationally.
Doctors would worry about her, if they were monitoring her in this moment! It is not a normal human experience, to be so aligned and so allowing, with so much source flowing through you!
But you are experiencing the same thing! In other words, Esther's doing the interpreting of that which we are. But you're out there, all around the world, feeling the fullness of who you are, reveling and resonating in this knowledge. So, as you feel this, do you feel the fullness of who you, are right now? Don't you just know that everything's alright with you? Aren't you feeling more sure, in every moment- even as we're focused here together, that you are Source Energy in physical bodies?
And don't you feel sort of eager to express the source-ness of yourself, in moment after moment? Aren't you feeling that more, than you did when you walked in the door? Aren't you feeling it more maybe, than you've ever felt it in your life? Or (teasing) maybe it's just us! Maybe! But what we're getting at here is: It's those feelings, that you're reaching for. That's the main event! That's always what you're reaching for!
Don't try too hard to figure it out. Don't try too hard to figure it out in terms of... of conversation. Don't try too hard to figure out what your point of view is! Just FEEL your point of view! And know, that your point of view, when you are really in sync with the wholeness of who you are, which is what your question is about and what you MUST experience! Because once you experienced it, you can't go back! Once you feel that, and KNOW that, you've FELT it- then just feel for it, again and again and again. And don't accept anything less than that!
Don't accept confusion, it's not who you are! Don't accept anger toward other humans- it's not who you are! Don't accept vulnerability, it's not who you are. When you feel it, know that it's not who you are, and feel yourself into alignment.
That's what we would do, if we were in your physical body.
from the clip Abraham Hicks - Define The Meaning Of Sin
Re: How to get from a restistant mentally ill mind to a healthy one?
Thank you for sharing your experienceJenny Lee wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:53 am Just shared some of my personal experiences.
Several years ago, I was in deep depression and made a decision which most people wouldn't understand would pity. I lost consciousness for at least 24 hours without any pain. But my Inner Being still wanted to live in this physical body and so I woke up. This was sorta numbness and actually better than my state before I took the action. Soon I went to a hospital, and got a dozen pills a day. My Inner Being's strong desire to be in this body must trumped a lot of stuff. I didn't put all my hope on medicine and actually I rarely thought about it until later on. I was not deliberately thinking about Abe teachings too though I was a long time learner. I was sorta naturally guided to do things that felt neutral, which were not dramatic at all. Though there were lots of reasons for me to be dramtic then and there. I just kept on watching dramas on my phone to kill my time even though I didn't feel much interest. I filled my mind with the stories, the plots. Sometimes, I would do a certain activity which needed attention and the coopration between eyes and hands. This kind of life lasted about 40 days and I began to worry that there would be no breakthrough anymore. I wanted to be interested in life. I want to just have interests. And I made the decision to go back home. And the new environment and new activities immediately ignited my interests and even eagerness in the first several days. Then gradually, I was called back to Abe teachings and to purposefully practice Abe teachings on different subjects, including reducing the medicine MY ALIGNED WAY without being bothered by opinions of the doctor and my parents.
Looking back, when I was very low, I forgot Abe teachings and I sorta was forced to walk other paths which were still beneficial. I had taken medicine for several years, and that's not a big deal at all. After all, our bodies are very powerful to recover and we can let go of medicine if we want to in a smooth way without any withdrawl symptom--I didn't have any.
I can relate. The teachings are great, but I also haven't been resonating with them most of the time. I'm still figuring out how to feel okay in my now-reality. And I'm also picking from different teachers, reading books. Thank you, I'll keep looking and letting my inner guidance show me where to go.Jenny Lee wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:53 am In my opinions, when one is very low, Abe teachings would not that be resonating and practicable. And when one is not mainly feeling good, Bashar teachings are not that easy to follow.
Now, for the majority of my life, I feel interested and satisfied, though a lot of desires are still not manifested.
All things are possible. Keep searching any method that may be benefial to you and practice it for some time like a month. It it doesn't work, search and try another one. There was a period of time when I was passionately searching for ways/methods to be passionate about my life. Which led me to many teachers and then Abe, and then Bashar.
Wish you the best.