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Despite their simplicity, some quotes, are not easy for me to understand or implement.

Like this one:

Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:43 am
Abe teach:

There is this triad of intentions:
1., The basis of your life is freedom. You are so free that you can choose bondage.
2., The inevitable outcome of life is growth, or expansion.
3., The reason for life is joy- but that is an option.

(Abraham Hicks)

Isn't every contract I sign, a form of bondage? It's nice, that I have an apartment, enjoy security and feel comfortable in my home. In return, I usually have to work to fulfill the contract, or I live on welfare, my partner goes to work or I have enough money as a private individual to pay the rent. If that is no longer the case, the contract will be terminated at some point.

If the basis of my life is freedom, then I can choose whether I work or not. But if I don't work, that has an impact on my life situation. As described above, the public has to pay for it or the money has to come from somewhere else.

It would be nice, if there was no pressure to do something. And it would be just as nice, if there were no disadvantages, to doing nothing. Isn't that freedom too?

Life would certainly be easier, if I didn't think so much .

Awa wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:09 pm Isn't every contract I sign, a form of bondage?

It is- but a chosen one.
And within this "bond", you have the opportunity to experience certain things that you couldn't experience, if you wouldn't be in this bond.

Physical life itself IS bondage. Contrary to not being "burdened" with a very vulnerable body that can feel pain, and "being burdened" with a mind that chose to forget in big parts "who you really are", being in human form is massive bondage. BUT only in this bondage, you CAN experience the other sides of burden and pain and uncertainty and vulnerability, which are- per example,
Freedom, Liberation, Lightness, Ease, Wellbeing, physical and mental Joy and Lust, Clarity, or -on the way to the full form of Delight, the delicious sensations of Relief!

So, "bondage" is NOTHING BAD per se. It is just a whole world of narrowing your Focus, and that gives you endless deliciousness and insight and creativity, when you use it from ITV!

It's nice, that I have an apartment, enjoy security and feel comfortable in my home. In return, I usually have to work to fulfill the contract, or I live on welfare, my partner goes to work or I have enough money as a private individual to pay the rent. If that is no longer the case, the contract will be terminated at some point.

That is right. And don't you think you could ENJOY all this?

You have the freedom to look from ITV (where you find wonderful good things about EVERY thing on Earth) or from OOTV (where NOTHING that exists really is good, and it all feels off or even terrible.)

If the basis of my life is freedom, then I can choose whether I work or not. But if I don't work, that has an impact on my life situation. As described above, the public has to pay for it or the money has to come from somewhere else.

...Isn't that fascinating? So much to explore. So much to find out, what YOU prefer!

It would be nice, if there was no pressure to do something. And it would be just as nice, if there were no disadvantages, to doing nothing. Isn't that freedom too?

Whatever example you pick- it will ALWAYS have 2 sides. You alway can look at it from ITV, or OOTV. That will never end.

Life would certainly be easier, if I didn't think so much .

Certainly. Than you would have an easy life just as a plant has, or a beetle, or a heavily mentally disabled person. But, do you really PREFER that?

Yusuf Islam (who was called then Cat Stevens) had written and texted this song:

MOONSHADOW SONGTEXT

Yes, I′m being followed by a moonshadow
Moonshadow, moonshadow
Leaping and hopping on a moonshadow
Moonshadow, moonshadow

And if I ever lose my hands
Lose my plow, lose my land
Oh, if I ever lose my hands
Oh, if, I won't have to work no more

-Wenn ich jemals meine Hände verliere, meinen Pflug und mein Land-
wenn ich meine Hände verliere, dann muss ich nie mehr arbeiten.

And if I ever lose my eyes
If my colours all run dry
Yes, if I ever lose my eyes
Oh, if, I won′t have to cry no more

Und wenn ich jemals meine Augen verliere, wenn all meine Farben vertrocknen-
wenn ich meine Augen verliere, dann muss ich nie wieder weinen.

Yes, I'm being followed by a moonshadow
Moonshadow, moonshadow
Leaping and hopping on a moonshadow
Moonshadow, moonshadow

And if I ever lose my legs
I won't moan, and I won′t beg
Oh, if I ever lose my legs
Oh, if, I won′t have to walk no more

Und wenn ich jemals meine Beine verliere, werde ich nicht klagen und betteln,
ja, wenn ich meine Beine verliere, dann muss ich nicht mehr laufen.

And if I ever lose my mouth
All my teeth, north and south
Yes, if I ever lose my mouth
Oh, if, I won't have to talk

Und wenn ich jemals meinen Mund verliere, alle meine Zähne von Nord bis Süd-
ja, wenn ich meinen Mund verliere, oh dann muss ich nicht mehr reden.

Did it take long to find me?
I ask the faithful light
Oh, did it take long to find me?
And, are you gonna stay the night?

I′m being followed by a moonshadow
Moonshadow, moonshadow
Leaping and hopping on a moonshadow
Moonshadow, moonshadow

(I inserted a quick German translation so you don't have to work so hard on it)
I think, it shows very wisely, that all things have 2 sides. You can eiter see it from a wanted stance- or not.
You can either be happy under ALL conditions- or not.

That is the true freedom.

Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:01 pm
(I inserted a quick German translation so you don't have to work so hard on it)
I think, it shows very wisely, that all things have 2 sides. You can eiter see it from a wanted stance- or not.
You can either be happy under ALL conditions- or not.

That is the true freedom.

You are just sweet and unique and charming . Thank you for the great translation. You are also very funny and humorous

When I read your post on Sunday, I heard the new song "Freiheit", by Marianne Rosenberg on the radio. It fits well with this thread .

Since I often suffer from headaches and went to the neurologist today because of them, he asked me, if I wanted to try mood-enhancing drops. They would help me to get out of the slump.
Unfortunately, I can't keep my mood up for long with anything. The joy is there in the moment and I'm grateful for it, but shortly afterwards, it's gone again.

It is- but a chosen one.
And within this "bond", you have the opportunity to experience certain things that you couldn't experience, if you wouldn't be in this bond.

Physical life itself IS bondage. Contrary to not being "burdened" with a very vulnerable body that can feel pain, and "being burdened" with a mind that chose to forget in big parts "who you really are", being in human form is massive bondage. BUT only in this bondage, you CAN experience the other sides of burden and pain and uncertainty and vulnerability, which are- per example,
Freedom, Liberation, Lightness, Ease, Wellbeing, physical and mental Joy and Lust, Clarity, or -on the way to the full form of Delight, the delicious sensations of Relief!

So, "bondage" is NOTHING BAD per se. It is just a whole world of narrowing your Focus, and that gives you endless deliciousness and insight and creativity, when you use it from ITV!

As always - fabulously explained

That is right. And don't you think you could ENJOY all this?

Maybe I suffer from a serotonin deficiency.

...Isn't that fascinating? So much to explore. So much to find out, what YOU prefer!

I want to feel good. Basically, I know what I want. That's why I don't need constant contrast. I simply lack the ability to maintain good feelings over a longer period of time.

Whatever example you pick- it will ALWAYS have 2 sides. You alway can look at it from ITV, or OOTV. That will never end.

That´s very, very wise.

Certainly. Than you would have an easy life just as a plant has, or a beetle, or a heavily mentally disabled person. But, do you really PREFER that?

A plant does not have to explain its goals, strengths, weaknesses, successes and failures. I have not dealt with this all my life and now I have to answer questions like: what makes me special, what can I do to make my work fulfilling, how do I evaluate my work performance, how can I contribute more, etc. etc.

Always further, always higher, always better. A phenomenon of the society.

I wish you a joyful journey- by you, choosing what feels good to you, here and now. Or, what gives you at least relief. And that you are nice with yourself, if things don't work out as you hoped for!

Awa wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 5:52 pm
Always further, always higher, always better. A phenomenon of the society.

...if you think so, and mourn it- this is your choice.
*I* think, that this is no "phenomenon of society", but indeed a phenomenon of LIFE.

It is the inevitable growth, aka expansion, that life causes- and so, one of the 3 basic concepts of how life works (if we like it or not).
As you know (and here we are back at the beginning of this thread) -Abe explain in this way:

There is this triad of intentions:
1., The basis of your life is freedom. You are so free that you can choose bondage.
2., The inevitable outcome of life is growth, or expansion.
3., The reason for life is joy- but that is an option.

(Abraham Hicks)

Bottom line:
As long as you are living, you can't escape the "always further, always higher, always better". Life will never stand still, but -inevitably- will expand.

Life "works for us", when we embrace it's rules, and see- and use them as opportunities to experience joy.
Life doesn't "work" in our favour, when we mourn how life functions.

Or, with other words: Joy is an option. And you are free to choose this option of Joy- or not.

Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 5:12 am I wish you a joyful journey- by you, choosing what feels good to you, here and now. Or, what gives you at least relief. And that you are nice with yourself, if things don't work out as you hoped for!

Thank you very much for your warm, sincere and friendly wishes

I recently discovered this WS. It fits my current situation quite well
viewtopic.php?p=7180#p7180

Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 5:24 am Life "works for us", when we embrace it's rules, and see- and use them as opportunities to experience joy.
Life doesn't "work" in our favour, when we mourn how life functions.

Or, with other words: Joy is an option. And you are free to choose this option of Joy- or not.

Abe's teaching is based on being happy for no reason. Because that feels better than being annoyed, sad or frustrated. I can't expect anything in return. The good feeling has to be enough. If I manage to keep my thoughts and feelings high for a longer period of time, I'm one step further .

Awa wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:26 pm Abe's teaching is based on being happy for no reason.

It might seem as nitpicking, but really, that's not the case. The idea is to find "reasons". Or new angles from where you see the beauty, or the goodness. To be happy even without physical conditions already in place.

When you literally have "no reason" to be happy, you will not be happy! You would be empty.
But when you care to find out that you can ALWAYS find the reason, then you feel invincible. And that is a totally different story!

Because that feels better than being annoyed, sad or frustrated.

Yes, that is the "reason" to look for the joy.

I can't expect anything in return.

Not true again! When you see a deep authentic "joy, happiness, satisfaction, a sense of freedom and power..." as "nothing", you really have a bigger problem...

The good feeling has to be enough. If I manage to keep my thoughts and feelings high for a longer period of time, I'm one step further .

Yes.