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Have you had experiences with negative non-physical entities, like demons, archons, etc?

We have a whole Abraham Quotes section on this topic - you may find it interesting

Here's the link to that:

"Ghosts", physical interactions with Nonphysical. Are there bad Spirits and Devils?

ZiggerotronLOA wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 1:37 am Have you had experiences with negative non-physical entities, like demons, archons, etc?

I want to answer partly along the lines of two Abe-quotes, both from the collection that Cookie had so lovingly linked ( )

Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:30 pm Hauntings, Ghosts, & the Paranormal


Questioner:
One other question about hauntings. People talk about how sometimes they’ll come into the room, and things are misplaced or moved around, and they attribute it to hauntings…

Abraham:
Most of it, we attribute it to lousy memory… and the cooperative Universe that will always assist you. In other words, when you decide that something is lost, you can’t find it- even though it’s right there, and then when you get back into the vibration that allows you to see it, you’re sure that someone has brought it in and put it there. More of that is going on than anything.

But in fairness, everything is vibrational, and everything you see in this physical world is an extension of that vibration. This focused nonphysical energy can move things, right, because everything is vibrational.

Abraham Hicks

Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 9:56 pm Do Demons, Devils and Fallen Angels exist?
"Rivers of fearful thoughts", that are attractive to those of a fearful point of attraction


HS:
I decided to review my own life. What I was taught at various stages, and first of all, I was taught about demons. That's where it started. Demons are fallen angels, like they're real powerful, independent etc. Then the next stage, another group... I live in a commune, they use the phrase "lower astral entities". So, that's not quite as bad as a demon, but... so I like the term thought-form. And I just wondered, so... We think thoughts, they coagulate, and they sort of keep thinking...? I guess the follow-up question is, how much personality is there? Or, intention, or independence, or power... I mean, there's life there, but how much are they individual powers, that can DO things?

Abe:
They have no power of assertion. They can be invited!
In other words... we hesitate to put so much conversation into this, that we actually pose them as creatures of the night- that you may meet around the corner, because: It's not like that, AT ALL.

It is, that it is a coalescing of thought. In other words, if you are fearful or aggravated about something, and you are offering those thoughts, those thoughts are emanating from you. And have vibrational characteristic. And by law of attraction, other thoughts like them join your thought, and so the vibration can become stronger and stronger, until there are rivers or currents that carry these thoughts.

So, they are fearful thoughts. It's why it's relatively easy to get the population of the planet worried about an epidemic of swine flu- because there is a vulnerable vibration, that is somewhat active in a lot of people. Maybe most people to some regard! So, worldwide that attention to something therefore is activated in many people at once, can get a stronger foothold. But this stream of men's spin-off, of men's conscious thought; that consciousness that exists, amounts to like a very small flea on the back of a very big dog- in relationship to this vortex of well-being that is the result of what you all are living!

In other words, it works like this. And we're happy that you have shined a light on it, in a little stronger way for us here! So, as you're experiencing contrast,
knowing what you don't want and therefore asking what you do want- when you ask for what you do want, we are not kidding you- that requests springs
forward in a rocket-light fashion! A vibrational rocket. And the larger part of you, who knows full well that no one would know better to ask for an improvement for you, than you... so, when that rocket emanates from you, your inner being and that which is source, gives undivided attention to that new found request! And the universe expands: Because Source Energy is on that request now! That's really a big thing to understand!!

Now the next big thing to understand is, that as those in your current now-reality are sending those rockets forward, this vibrational reality is expanding. And is full of better and better and better requests! When someone's rude, you ask for them to be nicer. When someone's sick, you as for wellness. So, this vibrational vortex of well-being expands, and source gives undivided attention to it. Now, here's a really important thing to understand:

The new energies that are coming forth, who are the consciousness that are the new infants, that are being born now now now now now now now... they come from that vantage point of well-being! When someone croaks (we try to be as disrespectful as we can about the death experience. As there is no death!) -when someone releases their consciousness here in this physical body, and re-emerges into the non-physical,

they don't bring those worrysome, lackful force with them!

They become what life caused them to become! And it is from that vantage point that the new consciousness is born back into this physical experience. So, as a result of that- feel the power of that!- millions of people, billions of people, sifting through and asking for improvement; source holding the improvement, people are croaking and so forth and new ones coming in, are understanding the fresh new well-being perspectives, so now there's the other
side of that! When you know what you don't want, you know what you do want. -We just explain to you, what happens with the "what you do want part".

There is something that happens with the "you know what you don't want-part", too:
It goes into the thought-form bank in the sky.

...It doesn't matter what you call it. It remains in this physical realm, and

it doesn't have anything close to the power because source isn't behind.
It's there. There's NOT a source of evil. There's just the spinoff of man's lack for thought!
And so, if you could stop watching television, it would peter out pretty quick! It really would!

...If you weren't keeping it activated, with monuments and historical documents and all of that stuff, where you keep reliving the negative past -then it would eventually just peter out. In other words it'd peter out in the sense that, proportionately speaking, it wouldn't amount to nearly as much as the thoughts of well-being, that would predominate. So, the reason we put it to you in this way is, because we are not acknowledging that there is no existence of it, we just want you to understand what it is. And the power, that it doesn't have, and your choice of whether you are a match to it or not.

And so, that's why we're saying to all of you, who are so interested in finding the "reality" of things, and trying to find the rightness of reality, and sorting out alllll of the components of life on the planet, we say: Ooh what a big job you have, first of all! And what really a waste of time it is to try to sort it all out, and put it into good piles and bad piles, when what you really want to do, is let life cause you to expand. And then, do the only thing that is necessary, or that you can do, or that is a value to you, or that will help you fulfill your reason for being!

And that is: line up with who life has caused you to become.
Mind your own business, and don't try to sort out all of that outside-the-vortex-stuff!
But we think it is important, in the context of this conversation of demons and devils and all of that kind of stuff is, that

the worst that can be out there, is your lack for thought about things that are the opposite-of what you want!

And in combination, every lackful thought that has ever been thought -even if it is all gathered together, while it could give you an uncomfortable time in your bedroom, if you were in the vicinity of it, it has no power. It cannot assert itself into your experience! Can only come by invitation. And you are only an emotional movement on the emotional scale away from being out of vibration with it, anyway. Helpful?

Devil and demons and all things of that nature are figments of man's imagination.

But it doesn't mean that they aren't real! Because, the thoughts you think, ARE.

from the youtube- clip Abraham Hicks - Devils and Fallen Angels

We all have encounter badness and evil. And I want to "attribute it mostly to fear and negative expectation".
From that stance, we "invite" all sorts of matches that fit our vibe, and it might include the "spin-off of mans thoughts" in the form of demons (and more of that sort).

I personally was never interested in doing so, even as a small child I somehow inherently knew that good feeling thoughts always trump fear, meanness, and evil, and I trained that. I called it "dancing with the devil", as I somehow felt that this whole concept of a devil per se was sort of master-class. I researched the many stories about selling our soul to the devil, and it was almost comically obvious, that this "devil" was not TRULY powerful. More like a trickster, and it seemed to me that the TRUE purpose of it was to challenge us humans to choose on purpose, with a loving heart.

No, I never encountered any mean or ill-willed nonphysical entity... not that I would know of.

In the past, when I've been in a not-very-good-place vibrationally, sometimes before I went to sleep,when I closed my eyes, I'd see images of scary "beings" in my mind's eye / imagination that I didn't want to see. (I believe it's just thoughtforms floating around in mass-consciousness, that are on a similar vibration to your negative thoughts, being attracted to your vibrational setpoint).

If you ever see them, there's a visualization technique I use that works very well if you want them to go away -

I imagine a black hole that sucks them up like a vacuum cleaner. I imagine them being happier in the world of the black hole! I add sound effects to the vacuum cleaner as it sucks them up - that makes the visualization more powerful and effective for me.

I then imagine a protective egg of golden light around me, and I imagine that only good things can remain inside my egg of light. Anything unwanted cannot stand the light and automatically is forced far away - and gets sucked up into the black hole

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Other techniques I've heard of are
- asking them directly to go away; (this works when you believe in your own power) - I believe this is what Suzanne Giesemann does.
- asking your Spiritual Guides to help you take them away; (this works when you believe in the power of your Spirit guides)
- saying a prayer that you believe is charged with positive God-force (eg Our Father) - I think this is what Sonia Choquette does.
- other visualization techniques for cleansing / clearing which you invent yourself or read about.
eg Imagining yourself as a magnet, that magnetically repels anything unwanted
eg Imagining yourself turning up your inner light
eg imagining applying a pressure washer, or going through a carwash, washing them away
- utilising things that you believe will help (eg clearing techniques, using clearing essential oils, smudging, crystals) - The key is that if YOU believe they will help - then they will help.

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Always remember:

a.) Experiences like these are just a reflection of your vibrational setpoint (often seeing scary things is related to the setpoint of Fear), so this can be helpful information about where you are, to help you shift in a more positive direction from here.

b.) You create your own reality and have all the power over what you experience. You never have to be a victim - you don't have to accept receiving unwanted things that pop up. You have the power to change your focus and pivot things so that they feel better.

ZiggerotronLOA wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 1:37 am Have you had experiences with negative non-physical entities, like demons, archons, etc?

Oh yes.

I moved into a house where I feel certain a child must have been repeatedly molested.
The shabby place was full of equally shabby furniture, which I rented as part of the deal.
When I slept in the single bed I had a regular visitor: I thought of it as an evil groping presence, because that's what it did. It groped me!

I've written about this horrible place elsewhere on the forum. I got trapped there from November 1999 to mid-2002.

It's funny... because I was in so much trouble there, yet I look back on it as an 'interesting' experience.
Apart from anything else, I believe I got rid of the EGP.

When I get these ideas about possible ghost / otherworldly being interaction I always just tell them I want nothing to do with you / you can just move along and I don't have these experiences. I do get the sense sometimes that some places have a "vibration", I guess based on the things that happened in them prior, but I don't know if that is really true or I'm just imagining it.

Anyway even in those places when I hang out somewhere that feels like a more sinister setting I just say, well here I come with my high vibration and I am going to dominate this place with my good energy so if anything negative was there, it can either acclimate to my high vibes or just leave. IIRC even Abraham said something similar before, that you get to set the vibration and you don't have to be influenced by the vibration of the areas you spend time in, but I don't remember their words clearly on this topic.