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Abraham's opinion on medication?
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:40 pm
by BlueGlassButterflies
Hi my lovely abers!! I am coming to you with a question I'm not 100% sure on. I've listened to some of Abraham's videos on this topic, but I want to know a bit more.
I was diagnosed with bipolar type 2 on the 10th of October and started lithium. I feel much, much better now that I started the medication. Before I started, I felt no hope in life no matter how hard I tried. I couldn't feel positive about very much of anything and suicide was something I thought about often. On this medication, I feel hope again. I'm able to look forward to things and find joy in life in a way I haven't in years.
My question is, will the medication hinder my ability to align with my Inner Being? I can't find much information on it. I would really only prefer an Abraham perspective on this as they are my favorite teachers.
Re: Abraham's opinion on medication?
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 8:35 pm
by Paradise-on-Earth
BlueGlassButterflies wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:40 pm
Hi my lovely abers!! I am coming to you with a question I'm not 100% sure on. I've listened to some of Abraham's videos on this topic, but I want to know a bit more.
I was diagnosed with bipolar type 2 on the 10th of October and started lithium. I feel much, much better now that I started the medication. Before I started, I felt no hope in life no matter how hard I tried. I couldn't feel positive about very much of anything and suicide was something I thought about often. On this medication, I feel hope again. I'm able to look forward to things and find joy in life in a way I haven't in years.
My question is, will the medication hinder my ability to align with my Inner Being? I can't find much information on it. I would really only prefer an Abraham perspective on this as they are my favorite teachers.
So good that you already feel better! Abe teach to always take "The Path of Least Resistance". When the medication FEELS better, and gives you good feeling result- THAT is the path to embrace, right here and now. When you stop feeling good, or you WANT to try another path-then THAT is the way to go, here and now. "Keep your ear to the ground" as Abe say, be aware of your emotional guidance. As long you follow what feels better, as relief, soothed- or what you really enjoy, you can't go wrong!
My question is, will the medication hinder my ability to align with my Inner Being?
See above: Nothing that makes you feel good, will ever hinder your Alignment. As, Hope, Fun, Joy ARE the indicators of Alignment.
Re: Abraham's opinion on medication?
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 8:38 pm
by Paradise-on-Earth
Advice to a HS- a Singer- with Bipolar-Disorder
(What means the label of being bi-polar?
How does strong wanting play into it?- How to deal with strong desires?
Is healing possible for her?
How about taking the medicine?)
HS:
The first question I have is:
If I want to heal myself of bipolar disorder, no matter what. Can I do it? Is it possible, if all the doctors say, I cannot? And, years ago when I got off my medicine... let's say, 7 years ago when I was experimenting and didn't want to accept that I had this label. Um, I ended up in in the hospital many times, and it was very painful. So I guess, my my first question is: Do you believe that I can heal my bipolar disorder?
Abe:
Absolutely!
Talk to us about how it manifests!?
HS:
Um, well, I'm on medicine. So it doesn't get to come out very often.
Abe:
Then, is it an issue?
HS:
That's the second part of my question! I'm doing great on the medicine. So, should I just keep taking my medicine, and... and, what the hell, and live like that?
Abe:
Here's what we would do:
We would continue the medicine, feeling appreciation for the balance that it provides for you.
And at the same time, we would identify what our strong desire is!
In other words, your desire is to be what?
HS:
I'm a singer. And when I get up on a stage, it's to be just like my old self, before I got manic.
Abe:
What is that?
HS:
Excited, without getting anxious, or without having balancing desire, and medication.
To go in the bathroom and pray and calm down, or (tearing up) ...put a pill under my tongue...
Abe:
There is not anything inappropriate about continuing with the medicine! In other words, because it is giving you this stable footing for now! And so we would continue that. Do you get a sense of what we mean, when we say that?
Out of your life experience are born powerful desires. And so- when you, through life experience come to conscious awareness of things that you want, there's a vibration that activates within you, that's very powerful. And that's what the vibration of Desire is! So, when -however it happens, you give birth to some powerful desires, that you -for whatever reason, for whatever other influence in your life, aren't believing, then there's this really strong tug of war that's taking place within you. And we think that is the best description of this label that they have given you, of anything else. Every time we have seen it -and we see it every time that it is labeled, in other words- it is not something that you are making up!
Every single time, it is a person who has powerful, off-the-chart wanting, that they have figured out how to receive.
Your emotions tell you everything that you need to know about your relationship with your Source energy. And by that we mean, how much Source energy am I pulling through me, right now? Or another way of saying that is,
-how great is my desire? And as my desire is very powerful in pouring through me,
- how much of that am I allowing to pour through me, or how much of that am I not allowing to pour through me?
If I didn't want very much, my resistance would be a non-issue. In other words, if you're going 2 mph, it doesn't matter how many trees are in the way. You can guide around them. But if you're going 200 mph, the trees start to matter more!
When you have a powerful desire and so you're summoning lots of energy through you, and you have beliefs that contradict your own desire- now there's this clashing going on. And that's what the medicine helps you to soften. In other words, it softens your focus. It softens your angst. Of course, it changes the chemicals in your body, which is what is doing that. But the process through which it is happening is not as important as understanding what is happening! What is happening is:
There is a splitting of energy within you. And so, even while you are taking the medicine as you talk about your desire, and why you want it, it's not possible for you to think about what you want and why you want it, and be in as contradicted a vibration, as when you are thinking about what you want and the fact that you don't have it!
We would far rather see you with strong strong desire, that you're not allowing- than we would with no desire.
And you were born with this powerful inclination toward desire! You are a powerful focuser. Which means, it's not possible for you to reign in your desire! We don't encourage that ever, anyway. And so, what you're wanting to do, is let your desire run as rampant as it wants to run- and it is pretty strong! And then you work, to bring yourself into alignment with your desire, as best you can.
Soothe yourself into alignment!
And you soothe yourself into alignment, with words that feel soothing, when you hear them from others, or from yourself!
HS:
My husband tapped into it. He said, "Candace, just could you be quiet in your spirit?" -we were just at the bar, and before I was going on stage and he's like, "just be quiet in your spirit", and it was just... it was like somebody put a little pill under my tongue. I completely understood. And when I'm writing a song, I've learned how to be completely focused, and very quiet in my spirit. And the composition just comes out! It's amazing. And it just writes itself! And so, that's what I am learning, how to do as far as you know, trying to heal myself, as...
Abe:
Focus on those times, that that happens.
In other words, the more you remember, as you were speaking that to us- right then, you were in perfect alignment with what you were speaking! In other words, as you remembered that time, you were there again. And also it is helpful for you to recall, that you can be there- and you cannot be there, that sometimes you're able to bring yourself back into alignment with thought.
Sometimes you bring yourself back into alignment by putting the pill under your tongue! It doesn't really matter.
You can bring yourself back into alignment and when you remind yourself, that you can come into alignment. -Then it makes you not so fearful that you will get out of alignment! And when you are not so fearful that you will get out of alignment, then you don't get out of alignment so much. -And it just gets better and better and better and better!
You are born with powerful desire! And when you go with the desire, you thrive.
When you fight against it, you don't.
And so, that desire was to stand out!
That desire was to make a difference.
That desire was to be heard.
That desire was to get tuned in, and be an example to others who can be tuned in!
And so, when you think thoughts like "I'm not good enough", or "I'm not ready", or "they won't accept me" or "they don't understand me... why don't I have a record deal yet..." those thoughts are so opposite of your desire, that that's what sets you out of alignment! Where, thoughts like "It's coming. All is well. Everything in its perfect time"...
And if we were standing in your physical shoes, we would focus on the writing of the song! And we would let the Universe take care of the aligning with the contracts. In other words- you get in that creative mode! ...It's always lovely to speak with someone, who understands that creative mode! Because you know when you're there, and you know when you're not. And when you're there, you're in that place of allowing!
So, what we'd like to say to you:
You want to get into that place of allowing, relative to your record contracts, too! Yeah! Write a song about your record contract! In other words, get...
HS:
Yeah, I just finished it. It's called "The jet plane takes off", and it's about what you teach! So perfect!! I got it! Okay, um.... I think, you say genius is focus. Does Focus take practice? Or is it just something you pull out of the sky, when you're letting it in?
Abe:
Focus does take practice.
What focus is, is isolating a vibration from a maze of vibration, and focusing upon it long enough that it becomes a dominant vibration.
And so, sometimes because you are a very energetic person who's eager about a lot of different things, you have a lot of active vibrations in your experience and it's possible for you to have many things that are moving forward, all at the same time. But if there is something that is bothering you, that is getting quite a bit of your attention.
Sometimes it causes the dominance of your vibration to be not in a place of letting in the other things, that you wanting! You've been letting the Universe know, in lots of different ways, what you want. And you do not need to sit down right now, and say "I want this, and I want this, and I want this, and I want this...", because you've done an excellent job- through the contrast that you've been living- of pointing all of that out!
Now your work is to get into a place where you're a match to what you are wanting.
You're a match, when you're feeling good. You're not a match when you're not feeling good! -And so, that worries you. Because you say, "but when I don't feel good I really don't feel good."
And we say: but what that means is, you really really want it!
In other words, that's good news, not bad news, you see! Just relax more. Be more playful about it.
Continue to take your medicine at the same time,
that you continue to acknowledge that you don't need it.
Let it be something that's like a friend that helps you along the way!
Don't push against it. It is a friend, not an enemy!
And and give yourself as much time in the creative phase as you can. Because when you'r in that creative phase, that's when you'r in your place of allowing. And so, do you find that you can achieve that, almost anytime? You sit down to do it... (HS: oh yes!) ...you know how to do it, relative to the creative music. Now get into it relative to anything, that you desire! You could pet your cat. You could never think another thought about any of this- and the Universe will yield you a contract!
And the time it takes, between now and when the contract is yielded, has to do with how many thoughts you have that are worrisome in nature, that keep that from happening. The well-being is on its way to you, unless you do that thing you do. And the good news is: Every time you do that thing you do, you feel negative emotion!
So, negative emotion is not an enemy or not a bad thing. It's your friend!
It's saying: Hey what you want is on its way to you! But you're slowing it down just a little bit by this train of thought!
HS:
So, when somebody says to you "You're 33. You better hurry up! Because if you don't... you know my mother says "well that's just ridiculous, you know! You need to think of maybe going back to college!" or, you know... hey, I just opened for Coolio at the Menton in L.A. "Oh, that's great, honey! Hey... la la la la la" -and she's talking about something else. So and then, um, you know somebody from a record company says "Well you know, you have talent you're an amazing composer and you're this and that. But gez... you're really getting up there in age!" ...you know, because I've listened to you and listened to your tapes and everything, and read your book and I don't necessarily get keyed into that so much... but still, the little devil goes "huh!"
Abe:
You might say something to them, like: "Are you saying that the entry point has to be a certain age? Because there are a lot of people a lot older than I am, that are still at the top of their game. So is the age thing just about the entry point? Or are there some other qualifications, that I'm not aware of?"
Who gets to decide other than you? NO ONE, you see! it's usually someone who feels defensive... in other words, if you're hiring somebody to represent you and they're not finding any inroads, then sometimes they feel like they need to justify why things aren't going better. So they're looking for excuses and trying to lay it back on you. And what you want to do is, if you are not putting them in the position where you are making them feel like you think that they are responsible for what's happening,
they'll offer you less of that, as you begin to accept that you are the creator of your own experience.
And so, you're not laying it on your agent's table... in other words, you're in this together, but you're not making them feel defensive. They won't throw that stuff up at you. That's just their defense mechanism. Just laugh, and say "Oh, there's been a whole lot of a lot older buggers than me, making great success. Now get off of that, and let's move on! (HS: right, right!!)
...Be playful about it. Because age has nothing to do with anything! EVERYTHING is about vibrational alignment.
What we notice as we watch you, as you are moving through time, all of you as a mass consciousness, is that the majority of your desires are happening early on in your life. And if you are in a place where you can allow it, then much of your success comes very early in life. And there are people who will say "if your success does not come early, then it will not come!" -and the reason that they say that, from what they observe, is because mostly they're not really allowing themselves to want! -Only when they are young. And usually, by the time they are older, they've blocked off most of the allowing anyway. And so, they're not wrong in their observation. In other words, that is the usual rule. But that is not who you are!! In other words,
You're going to keep wanting long long long into your 80s and 90s!! And you're going to allow long long long!!
In other words, age is irrelevant. It doesn't have anything to do with it, and so- if somebody says that to you, and you want to be playful to them, just say:
"Oh, I think that what you're getting at, is that young people are usually more eager about things. But you'll never find anybody more eager than I am!"
From the youtube-clip "Talk to Your Cells, Will Change Your Life!
Abraham Hicks 2024"
Re: Abraham's opinion on medication?
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 6:22 am
by BlueGlassButterflies
Re: Abraham's opinion on medication?
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:57 am
by Jenny Lee
If you plan to gradually let go of medicine in an aligned way, maybe these following thoughts would help and they are based upon my own experiences:
During the second emotional lowness, I learned to make more decisions on my own. I began to make more brave decisions and follow them, regardless of what others said. Every day, I deliberately remembered Abe's thoughts on wellness, on Jesus' stories of healing and specifc conversations between Abe and some HSs who were seeking advice about their physical dis-ease. So I knew: All things are possible for human bodies. An extremely healthy body is always in my Reality. My body easily adapts to new conditions in positive ways. My body can easily let go of any medicine or other stuff. In ideal circumstances, it only takes 3 days for our bodies to let go of any stuff and adapt to new conditions. My body is the most powerful medicine factory. Every desire related to my physical body, no matter what it is, is immediately fulfilled on my behalf, forever. That doesn't mean sometimes I would better take the PoLR action such as going to the dentist. Every time when the doctor, no matter how professional or famous she/he seems to be, says something not jive with what I Know from Abe, with what I truly desire, I immediately take my time to remember, to repeat what I know from Abe. Again and again, until their words don't cause emotional turmoile in my sphere. So I successfully let go of the medicine step by step in a short period of time. And I will continually make my own decisions firmly and follow them persistently on more and more life subjects, no matter what others say. Even in some cases, its needs courage or braveness, and therefore not fully aligned, I may still act upon it as my PoLR. After all, what's the big deal? I am an eternal being. I have unlimited life times to enjoy. I am always strongly called to what's best for me, forever, when I am still in this physical body. When I am not in this physical body, it is also very good, from my now point of view, because then I would feel extremely joyful in PPE.
Several years ago, I was in deep depression and made a decision which most people wouldn't understand would pity. I lost consciousness for at least 24 hours without any pain. But my Inner Being still wanted to live in this physical body and so I woke up. This was sorta numbness and actually better than my state before I took the action. Soon I went to a hospital, and got a dozen pills a day. My Inner Being's strong desire to be in this body must trumped a lot of stuff. I didn't put all my hope on medicine and actually I rarely thought about it until later on. I was not deliberately thinking about Abe teachings too though I was a long time learner. I was sorta naturally guided to do things that felt neutral, which were not dramatic at all. Though there were lots of reasons for me to be dramtic then and there. I just kept on watching dramas on my phone to kill my time even though I didn't feel much interest. I filled my mind with the stories, the plots. Sometimes, I would do a certain activity which needed attention and the coopration between eyes and hands. This kind of life lasted about 40 days and I began to worry that there would be no breakthrough anymore. I wanted to be interested in life. I want to just have interests. And I made the decision to go back home. And the new environment and new activities immediately ignited my interests and even eagerness in the first several days. Then gradually, I was called back to Abe teachings and to purposefully practice Abe teachings on different subjects, including reducing the medicine MY ALIGNED WAY without being bothered by opinions of the doctor and my parents. (I did a lot of pre-paving remembering what Abe say about our bodies and how powerful our bodies are. So when the famous doctor said something opposite of my desire, I didn't buy into it. I didn't pulled into worry by my parents' worrisome thoughts either)
Looking back, when I was very low, I forgot Abe teachings and I sorta was forced to walk other paths which were still beneficial. I had taken medicine for several years, and that's not a big deal at all. After all, our bodies are very powerful to recover and we can let go of medicine if we want to in a smooth way without any withdrawl symptom--I didn't have any.
Re: Abraham's opinion on medication?
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:18 am
by Paradise-on-Earth
Re: Abraham's opinion on medication?
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:21 am
by Paradise-on-Earth
Jenny Lee, your story is SO impressive and awesome!
Thank you so much for sharing it again! WHAT a treasure you are!
Jenny Lee wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:57 am
All things are possible for human bodies. (...) My body is the most powerful medicine factory.
Ohhh, SO agreed! My own life and what I learned due to the miracles that my children and husband pulled off, backs this up 1000%!
Re: Abraham's opinion on medication?
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:32 am
by Jenny Lee
Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:21 am
Jenny Lee, your story is SO impressive and awesome!
Thank you so much for sharing it again! WHAT a treasure you are!
Jenny Lee wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:57 am
All things are possible for human bodies. (...) My body is the most powerful medicine factory.
Ohhh, SO agreed! My own life and what I learned due to the miracles that my children and husband pulled off, backs this up 1000%!
I am so happy about your words.
I am still deliberately playing a long game about physical conditions. My hair becomes much better now. And today when I visited the old cafe, the girl said that I had lost so much weight that they almost didn't recognize me--and recently, I just eat and drink what I like and often remind me that my body is working diligently to keep me both healthy and fit, and so I am glad that I can have a relatively satisfying body shape without depriving myself of gourmet food and beverages. And this would also be a long game for me--a game I may play for the rest of my life.
Re: Abraham's opinion on medication?
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:14 pm
by Paradise-on-Earth
Jenny Lee wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:32 am
I am so happy about your words.
I am still deliberately playing a long game about physical conditions. My hair becomes much better now. And today when I visited the old cafe, the girl said that I had lost so much weight that they almost didn't recognize me--and recently, I just eat and drink what I like and often remind me that my body is working diligently to keep me both healthy and fit, and so I am glad that I can have a relatively satisfying body shape without depriving myself of gourmet food and beverages. And this would also be a long game for me--a game I may play for the rest of my life.
"Long played games" are the best, when they feel good, imo!
They feel organic and natural, to me. Shifting around one step at a time, giving myself peace and MY TIME without hunting, needing and yearning. Again, I so hear you! Applying friendliness and unconditional self-love, dropping my victim-mentality, unlearning impatience and self-hate, relaxing INTO the contrast instead of pushing against... turning around all of this which is long-trained living from OOTV, and not giving up when we have others not understanding or even mocking us, when we have slipped AGAIN, or when we are mixed up, when pain comes AGAIN... all that's such a huge thing. It MAY take time!!!
Sometimes it feels to me as if we turn around and re-write this whole paradigm. Aren't we living- and loving the "New world" (aka, our personal Visions, dreams, "Paradise") onto what is "Earth"?
Again, I think you are doing amazing! Your journey is incredibly inspiring!
Re: Abraham's opinion on medication?
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 8:59 am
by Jenny Lee
Paradise-on-Earth wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:14 pm
Jenny Lee wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:32 am
I am so happy about your words.
I am still deliberately playing a long game about physical conditions. My hair becomes much better now. And today when I visited the old cafe, the girl said that I had lost so much weight that they almost didn't recognize me--and recently, I just eat and drink what I like and often remind me that my body is working diligently to keep me both healthy and fit, and so I am glad that I can have a relatively satisfying body shape without depriving myself of gourmet food and beverages. And this would also be a long game for me--a game I may play for the rest of my life.
"Long played games" are the best, when they feel good, imo!
They feel organic and natural, to me. Shifting around one step at a time, giving myself peace and MY TIME without hunting, needing and yearning. Again, I so hear you! Applying friendliness and unconditional self-love, dropping my victim-mentality, unlearning impatience and self-hate, relaxing INTO the contrast instead of pushing against... turning around all of this which is long-trained living from OOTV, and not giving up when we have others not understanding or even mocking us, when we have slipped AGAIN, or when we are mixed up, when pain comes AGAIN... all that's such a huge thing. It MAY take time!!!
Sometimes it feels to me as if we turn around and re-write this whole paradigm. Aren't we living- and loving the "New world" (aka, our personal Visions, dreams, "Paradise") onto what is "Earth"?
Again, I think you are doing amazing! Your journey is incredibly inspiring!
Yes! What lovely words and a wonderful reminder! Thank you.