The Abe Forum

Astrology and Destiny...?

HS:
I was told... I've had, um astrological readings, and have been told through my natal chart, that... how does that work? They take your, um, birth date where you were born... the time you were born-

Abe:
...all the past [Applause] stuff? The stuff that happened, before you've put anything in your Vortex? The stuff that... really, we're just playing with you a little bit. But we ARE playing with you! So, what's the big question? The question is: There's manifestation. And there's, um, predictions. Predictions based on the fact, that you didn't just begin when you were born, here! The fact, that you are and were Consciousness, coming in, does mean that you did set intentions in motion.

And so, we are never going to say that there is nothing to all of that!
Because there IS something to all of that.

So, you get here, just as you planned from an atmosphere, a non-physical atmosphere of non-resistance.
And came into a time and space, and then began having experiences, and continuing the creation by launching your Rockets of Desire.

And so, all we are suggesting in this conversation about astrology is, that you understand that- once you got here... in other words, your immersion into this time-space-reality was perfect every single time. And then you got here, and you began offering new intentions. And it's the gap between where you stand, and what this Vortex is, that you are really all about!

And so we could say to 100% of you, that getting here went really well. Because you came from nonphysical- just the way you intended to, from an atmosphere of no resistance but after you got here, you started sort of mucking it up a little bit. So, that's the part that you're really wanting to focus upon! So, we cut you off. We didn't even let you ask your question! But now we have prepared you, for what you know the answer is going to be. Ask your question!

HS:
Um, I've forgotten what my question was (laughter)...

Abe:
Good. One day, early on in Jerry and Esther, doing this work, they were at a dinner table with a lot of people, who had been at the seminar. They all went to a restaurant and sat around a big table, and somebody had a book of astrology and it was a few volumes. They were big, big, books and they were passing it around and they were saying- whoever brought the books- "pick your birth date and the time of your birth as nearly as you can, and read what it says!" and so, it was a great hit!

Everyone was passing around the table and the book came to Esther at the precise moment, that the waiter was taking her order and so she's giving her order to the waiter and Jerry said "I'll find you in the book!" So he found her in the book. And when she came back to focus on the book, he said "here!" and she read it, and she said "Oh my God! that's exactly it! How precise could that possibly be?" and Jerry said "I don't know! I just opened the book and pointed."

HS:
So... so my question is, because this was ingrained in me, because this was ingrained in me that...

Abe:
A lot of things were! -Getting sick and dying is ingrained in you. -Everything that everybody's got, you're probably going to get: "One out of four has it, and you're probably the one..." -all of this is ingrained in you. -"There's not enough money to go around." That's ingrained in all of you! -"The rich are taking it all, and there's a finite pie with only so much money in it, and if you're not born into it, you're not going to get it" or -"If you're not doing something..." in other words, a lot is ingrained in you.

That's no excuse!
A lot is ingrained in you. What you're wanting to do, is measure what you're focused upon! Which may be what's ingrained in you against, or with your Inner-being-point-of-view about is saying! Because we're not saying it's incorrect!
We're just saying there are Paths of much lesser resistance that you can follow. Connect the current dots!

Backstage, for Esther, Val always leaves a notepad. Different sizes, but she always needs one, because she knows that Esther likes to sit and do a focus wheel. Or now Esther's doing her bag of marbles! And so she wants something to write on, and she always leaves a pen and Esther picked it up, and off she went and the pen was out of ink. And Esther thought: Well, I usually bring a pen. But I didn't bring a pen, because I thought there would be a pen! -And so, she just got on the radio and asked Jared, if he had a pen, and he brought her a pen, and that's great. And then, Esther noticed this pen that has no ink in it has a stylus on the end of it, and Esther lost her stylus on the airplane.

So, is it possible that the universe is so on Esther's side, that that pen which was chosen randomly by Val, was chosen for the stylus? Because Esther can always get another pen. Now, that feels like reaching... that feels like, oh, trying to make something work in this Psycho-Babble-Mumble- Jumbo that Abraham is offering.

Or is it legitimately the universe, always working things out for you? Every single thing, right down to a minute- detail? And is ANYTHING really going wrong?

And so we're just saying: If we where standing in your physical shoes, we'd be aware of what we're offering vibrationally. And aware of what that's attracting, and that would be the emphasis that we would be applying: That's the guidance that we would be looking for!

HS:
So can you talk to me about pivoting out of a belief that is hard to get rid of?

Abe:
No, we can't! Because- well, you can't stop thinking about that thing you're thinking about! Stop and thinking about "I'm not going to think about that anymore!" -Yes you are!! You're doing it right now. Think about something else! But this is compelling. Well, then think about it- you know about prioritization. You know about checking the boxes. You know about there being multiple boxes. You know about the ones that mean the most to you! We are not in any way saying that anything that you're thinking about; any of that is wrong. Let it dovetail! But you got here, call that a day, and now get on with what you came to be about!

You were not born with an astrological chart, tattooed to your butt!

HS:
How do you know?

Abe:
We're wrong! (laughter) But you were born with a guidance system to let you calibrate the vibration of your moment, in thought with that of your inner being, with this specific magnificent guidance. And so let's pretend that that doesn't really work, -does it? Because, the cat is out of the bag: Law of Attraction does prevail!

But let's just assume that the only guidance you've got, is whatever is in those charts, that somebody figured it all out, before you got here and now it's your job to dig through all of the whatever it is, and decipher what your plan for this life is, as if you're not deciding it, every moment of every day!

So here's some questions. What are the kinds of things that someone, who has a really good grasp on all of that, what is it you would be asking of that information to provide you, in terms of guidance here and now? What do you want to know? "How long will I live?"

-"To be determined- by your desire, and alignment with it!"

from the youtube clip Abraham Hicks2024 - The TRUTH about BIRTH CHARTS The law of attraction

Is there Pre-Destiny?
Observing "what-is" tends to only regurgitate what we already believe. (Reactivating resistance).

HS:
Is there some kind of a pre-destiny in following that inner guidance, that inner path?

Abe:
Only in this sense: It was decided, or known, as you were making the decision to come into this body, that

You're a creator.
And that through your exploration, you would expand.
And that expansion is necessary and delicious.

But we would call that predetermined or pre-decided by you, intentionality.

HS:
By me -me-, or me -my Inner Self me-?

Abe:
You, your Inner Self.

HS:
Both of us? Teamwork?

Abe:
At that time, there was no split in you, because you hadn't come into consciousness that could think independently. So you said "step one is: I will think independently. I will know what I don't want. I will know what I do want! And in my independent thought, I will discover things that I do not want, and in the discovery of what I don't want, I will simultaneously discover what I do want, because every component of the universe has
wanted and absence of wanted within it."

And you knew that, and you said: "Sometimes it is necessary for life to show me what I don't want, before I can even know what I do want! Because it has to be personal."

So, when life shows you what you don't want, and then you know what you do want- you've launched that rocket of clarity. And you, and therefore we, have reached into a new place where we have never been before! And we immediately go there, because we have no resistance. You are slower in coming along, because you've got beliefs that keep you from immediately going there.

But when your desire for feeling good becomes stronger, than holding to a belief that you don't care about... The other day, we've been telling this story. We may even have told it to you directly! Esther was in Del Mar. She has a house there. She hadn't been there in months, she was sitting at her desk, looking out where the ocean should have been, and couldn't see the ocean. And she realized that in the months that she'd been gone, the trees had grown in, and the bushes from the side had completely obscured her view from sitting at the desk!

Which was why the desk was there. So her gardeners came later that day, and she said: "I'm blocking my own view. Could you guys trim this edge, so that I can see the ocean?" And they said: "Happily!" and then they said: "But there are trees down in the ravine, that might be part of what you're seeing!" and Esther said: "Well, I only own half of that ravine. Just be sure that it's on my property." and they said "We've got you covered!" -and off Esther went to lunch with her friend. They were gone many hours. They shopped and ate and explored, and when Esther came back, she walked onto her deck and went in and looked out the window, and the ocean was back.

She was so happy to see it! Then she looked out a little way on the hillside, up very close to neighboring property, and saw something that made her gasp: Two very large tree stumps. Cut all the way down to the ground. And Esther thought: "How in the world did that happen?? I thought i was so clear!" and then Esther began feeling guilty right away, and so sorry. And then she tried to make herself feel better, and she thought:
"Well, that house is under construction. Maybe it's new people, and they don't know those trees were there!" -so she worried about it for a day or two, off and on, whenever she thought about it.

And then one day, she looked out and she saw a man in a suit standing out on that patio- it's across the ravine, Esther's never been over to that house- standing in a suit, looking at the tree stumps. And then he took his phone out, and took a picture of them, and Esther thought: "I better go confess." But she'd never been over there before, so she didn't know how to get there. Is that a road down, that leads up? Or road up, that leads down? It took her a while to get there. And when she got there, he was already gone. But on her way over, she had practiced her confession: "I didn't mean to do that, and I'm so sorry! But I did do it. And I will make it up to you, in whatever way you want! I'll plant new trees. I'll landscape your whole yard- whatever makes you feel better. I am so sorry!"

-But he wasn't there. So she didn't deliver her speech. So she just went home, and continued to practice it. And then, a day or two later, she went with her friend off to lunch again, and when they got back she said to him: "Look what I did!" -took him out on the patio and pointed at the trees. And her friend said what? "Esther, your gardeners didn't cut those trees down, while we were at lunch! Why isn't the hillside all torn up? Where is the debris from the trees?"

And Esther thought: Hey! and then they walked out to the edge, and she looked up close to her property, and there was a very small stump with all the debris from it lying right there, where they had cut it. And all that had happened is, the gardeners had cut down a little tree that let Esther see things, she wasn't used to seeing. And Esther thought: "It's embarrassing that I believed something so dumb! It was completely illogical. It didn't make any sense at all, that those two men in three or four hours... they would have had to have a helicopter and a saw, and just cut it off at the bottom and carried the whole thing away!"

There was no possible way that that could have happened. But Esther believed that she had done that. The circumstantial evidence was such. The way it had unfolded in her experience- she believed something, that was truly illogical. It shook her up! Esther said: "I bet there's all kinds of really dumb things that I believe, like that, that are in my way! That I just keep carrying forward, for no good reason. Because circumstances just make that the path of least resistance, relative to the momentum that I've got going."

And so, you do- all of you- have many beliefs that you are nurturing, that you continue to keep active. that prevent you from your true reception of what's truly going on. Here's a very powerful statement:

If your desire is strong enough, any belief that's in its way, will fall by the wayside.
But most of you -because of your attention to other humans, and your desire to find mutuality with them, you choose harmony with beliefs that don't serve you- rather than upset them.

Rather than harmony with the beliefs that your Inner Being holds about you, that serve you completely, you don't want to be a freak. You don't want to be a pollyanna. You don't want to believe things that most people don't believe.

You want to believe the circumstantial evidence, because most of you are conditional.
We mean: You, meaning humans, are conditional in your thinking! So you keep observing what-is, and you keep bringing the vibration of what-is forward, even though your very existence means, you are here to create new.

You're not here to regurgitate what's already here!
You are here to become freer. To become wholer. To become newer. To feel better!

You didn't come to regurgitate what-is, and yet, most of those around you are true regurgitators.
And if you stand out not as a regurgitator, sometimes they want to call you weird or freak or pollyanna, or "not facing reality".

HS:
Aren't those regurgitated beliefs manifestations as well (Abe: they are!) ...from something, that happened when you were five or six years old?

Abe:
Something happened 20 years ago, and if you didn't keep thinking about it, it would completely be out of your vibration- within three days! But because you talk about it, you keep bringing it forward 19 years, 18 years, 17 years, 15 years... and so, here it is. Right here, still active in your vibration, even though it has no relevance other than the relevance that you've given it, because you keep it active in your vibration!

So it continues to be in the way of what you want. but your blessed Inner Being- even though your Inner Being knows that you've got things in your way, your Inner Being is always looking for a path of least resistance to call you around it! Over and under it. In other words, to show you that you can get to where you want to be, no matter what beliefs that you hold. But isn't it nice, when you are willing to acknowledge that you have beliefs that are in your way, that are not valid? And what we're saying to you, with this segment, is:

The less you try to find mutuality with the girls in the nail salon, because they're lovely they are lovely and there are positive aspects... Esther one day realized, we've been talking about positive aspects for as long as she can remember. And somehow she was thinking that what we meant was -in every situation, or in every individual, there are positive and negative aspects, so line up the positive ones, line up the negative ones, and focus on the positive ones... and all of a sudden, she understood what we really meant. We meant:

Focus upon any aspect that causes you to feel good, while you focus upon it!

It's not an evaluation. It's not a determining what's positive, and what's negative! It's looking for mutuality with your inner being. It's looking for what feels good when you find it, you see!

HS:
And what feels good- a positive desire can blast out an old negative belief!

Abe:
Because, you see, every individual is like the universe at large. Within every particle of the universe is wanted and absence of it. So, in every individual, there are aspects of them that you want to find mutuality with, and aspects of them that you don't. But most people want the other to change, to be mutual to you, rather than just looking for what is mutual. Or looking somewhere else to find it! Oh, you could be living such wonderful lives, if you would realize, that in every place you look, there is mutuality. And it's up to you, to find it. But when the first thing you do, is find something that's missing- then you harmonize with what you're mutual on, that takes you away from your Inner Being. And then, you struggle and need them to change, so that you can feel better. You got that, didn't you?

HS:
Yeah. Is that... is that mutuality? Because part of me attracted like, some negativity, and part of me attracted some positivity. and everything that I... I attract to myself.

Abe:
That's a perfect statement. Because you've attracted it all.
Nothing is coming to you, that you haven't attracted. But here's the thing: You could be in a place of true alignment. Maybe you've been meditating for a while, and you're tuned in, tapped in, turned on, and you are in alignment, and in that alignment, you attract someone to you- let's say an individual to you, who has that mutuality.

In other words, that person has that potential or maybe even that going on actively, right here right now, and even though they might have a whole lot of other things that you don't want to think about ,or that you don't want to be mutual with, doesn't matter. You are focused upon and active about the thing that does, until you get so nosy about everything, about that person. You meet new people, law of attraction brings you together, and the first thing you do, is: "Tell me about yourself!" and we're in the background, saying: "Don't do that!! Let the law-of-attraction- mutuality be what carries you!"

Don't look around for other things that you might be mutual about, because you might find all kinds of things that neither one of you want to have active in your vibration, that you're mutual about! Because you have all kinds of things within you, that you don't want to be active in your vibration right now. Helpful?

HS:
Yeah, that makes sense, too. Yeah! Yeah, yeah!

Abe:
So, what is life, really? What is it?

Life really is you, seeking alignment with who you really are.
You, seeking alignment with who you really are, you seeking alignment with who you really are, until you discover:
You know when you're satisfied. And when you're not, then moving out and let law of attraction bring to you things that are important to you.

HS:
Well, that's what brought up that predestination I was thinking about. Jerry, manifesting through his own questioning a lot of this, right here... (Abe: yes!) ...and was that like, his Inner Being, calling him into it? (Abe: No question!) ...This is where he's going to, and he just had to... (Abe: No question.) ...allow that to happen and go through his experiences, to get in line with that?

Abe:
Sometimes, when you really want to know something, your Inner Being calls you right through contrasting experiences, in order to inspire you to ask for the thing, that you most want. It's also good: Everything is always working out for you!

from the youtube- clip "Is Pre-Destiny Real | Abraham Hicks | LOA (Law of Attraction)"

I so enjoyed reading this!

So glad it serves you!