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Over the past few days I read a book about manifestation by another author, and they emphasized something which I did not hear Abraham touch upon much in their many books and workshops, so I wanted to discuss what is Abraham’s perspective on these things.

The main distinction is that while Abraham says it is fine to be selfish and self-serving, this book emphasizes the importance of being of service to others and says that oftentimes manifestation endeavors are not successful because they stem from selfish desires. From my understanding this is not in line with Abraham’s teachings, who never said that wanting things just for yourself or for your own personal gain is a thing that hinders successful manifestation.

A part from the book:

“Critics often deplore the materialistic ideals that the practice of standard or the Law of Attraction propagates. That's because most people who practice manifestation are drawn almost magnetically into the realm of materialism. They gravitate to self-centered acquisitions such as houses, cars, jewelry, vacations, etc. (as far as I know Abe says that is fine)

One important thing to bear in mind is that it is never materialism or the desire for personal gain that manifests your desires. Therefore, for as long as your desires are motivated by materialism, personal gain or other selfish interests, you can visualize your desires all day long and yet you may never get what you want (What do you guys think? Abe doesn’t say this). One might argue that there are people and corporate entities that have acquired millions by operating from selfish and sometimes even downright ruthless and unscrupulous principles. Perhaps what one should consider are the multi-millions those people and companies don't make because they espouse selfish interests (Questionable).

What the book recommends instead:

When your desire is motivated by love (or honor, dedication to excellence, joy of optimal performance, basically the emphasis is on that it is not self-serving but it is something that benefits other people or mankind as a whole) -and nourished by love-it has the highest likelihood of manifestation.

Then it gives this advice:
Think about the desires you have at present. Are they motivated by love - or by selfish interests, ambition, revenge, personal gain, or other things? If they are motivated by anything other than love, refine your desire in a way that it becomes an expression of love-perhaps one that is of benefit not just to you, but to others or mankind. - what do you guys think about this, is there validity to this?

The issue:
It would be easy to dismiss this author and say that well, she is no Abraham and she is just wrong, but the problem is that there were a few workshops where Abraham spoke of similar sentiments, they were just never really explained, or I did not hear the ones where they were. But they did say that when you want something just to prove to others that you can do it, or to impress other people, it muddies up your vibration and creates discord which holds you back. But for example about wanting freedom or an easy life, I never heard something like this. This first motivation of why you want something seems to have a level of significance that was only touched upon lightly by Abe based on what I have seen and heard. What do you think?

Law of Attraction as I understand it, is such that "you get what you focus on" and "you get what you're vibrationally aligned with" (ie what you believe / know / trust). There are no caveats that you only get what you focus on IF it's not selfish. No. I believe that any judgement that says "This is selfish" or "This desire is bad / impure" is wrapped up in human-learned limiting beliefs. Source is all-loving, all-accepting of everything - including selfishness! Whether you are self-serving or serving for others - it doesn't matter - (afterall, all is one, so serving yourself serves The All on some level). The bottom line is: what you focus on and are vibrationally aligned with, is what you attract.

When your desire is motivated by love, what that means is that you're much more likely to be in alignment with love and with Source, so a manifestation motivated by love is more likely to come true, fast, because when you're in alignment, everything flows more quickly. But manifestations can happen even if they are not motivated by love (or any other high vibration, IB-level / Source-level emotions), if they have strong focus and strong belief / knowing / trust behind them. This is how even criminals can manifest "lucky breaks" and successes. And it is also how unwanted manifestations happen. When someone fears a disease, and somewhere believes it could happen to them, and eventually manifests it, it's not because they were in a state of love that they got this manifestation!

book wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 11:52 am there were a few workshops where Abraham spoke of similar sentiments... they did say that when you want something just to prove to others that you can do it, or to impress other people, it muddies up your vibration and creates discord which holds you back.

This is because the vibration of "wanting to prove to others" or to "impress others" introduces tension, ie resistance into the equation. The flow of your Vortex to you is pinched off when you're tense.

Abe say that

a, we ARE "source/God", in physical form.
and b, we came to understand ourself and express ourself, and play with other selfs, in physical form.


I like this quotes especially, that might express what *I* think even better than I can myself

About "Materialism:"

Abe:
You know that you are more than you see here, in these bodies!? Do you?
Are you beginning to realize, that you in your human form- and a lovely form it is!- in your human personality, that you are an extension of source energy, and that you've come as source energy to create in a time and place in a time and space, under the vibrational laws of the universe,

with the explicit intention of consciously becoming more, and getting to witness the more that you are becoming?
You've come here into this time-space reality, to turn thoughts to things!

And sometimes you've... especially those of you, out here on this leading edge! On this leading edge of spirituality and deliberate intent, deliberate creation- sometimes you argue with yourself about the importance or the value, or even the correctness, of wanting to create things. Like, maybe you should be more interested in spiritual things? ...More heavenly things. Maybe, you should care more about World Peace, and not so much about the Ferrari?

And we want you to understand, that your Ferrari won't stop world peace!

You're carving out for yourself holding your thoughts upon something that you care about, to the point that you learn not to deviate from the things that you care about. In other words, thinking about what you want and not thinking so much about its absence, and not using the absence of things you want as justification for flowing your thoughts toward more virtuous things! There's no supply line that has been cut off.

In fact, you get to create whatever it is, that you focus upon!
In fact, you DO create whatever it is, that you focus upon!

And by creating one thing, you don't disallow another. You can have it all!!
Did you hear that? So, what keeps you leading edge creators, what keeps any of you from experiencing, from having, from possessing, from living, from owning, from knowing, something that you desire?

What does pinch it off?
If it isn't that: "There just isn't enough to go around. And the greedy ones are getting it all!" -if it's not that, and it isn't! -if it isn't that, someone else has decided what you're worthy of, or not worthy of. And holding back on your behalf, then what is it?

It is, that only you can hold yourself apart, from something that you want.
And the only way that you do it is by focusing upon the absence of what you want.

Because what you're pointing at, with your thoughts and with your words, is what you're practicing a vibrational frequency of. And that's what you're getting! That's what you're letting in. But you get confused about it, because sometimes when you are in a state of desiring something, you're pointing right at what you desire, and you feel good when you're thinking about it. There's no resistance! There's no pinching it off, when you feel like that!

But when you feel jealous of what someone else has, or angry at yourself that you haven't created more effectively or efficiently, when you feel negative emotion- that's when you are pointing in opposition to what you want. And the reason that we are so sure about that is, because every time you pointed at what you wanted, your Inner Being pointed at it! And Law of Attraction began amassing around this powerful pointing of you and YOU. And even when you, in your human form, got discouraged and stopped pointing at what you want, but instead began pointing at all the reasons that you are using to justify why you don't have it-

your Inner Being continued to point in the direction of what you want!

And that is, in fact... that pointing difference is what your emotions are all about. Esther has been saying to anyone who asks, and since hardly anyone does, she tells a lot of people who aren't asking, if they say "what do you do?" -she says "I'm a Pointer." And that's usually about as far, as that conversation goes, because she looks crazy, you know. But what she means is:

"I point at what I want! And law of attraction and the Universe take care of it!
Cooperative components are gathered, and what I want begins to take shape.
And the more I point at what I want, then the more of what I want comes into form.

And the more I point at it, the more awarenesses I have, of other things that I think, might be helpful to assist me in the receiving of it!"


Sometimes you point at something like a new house. And then you need to point at someone who's going to build it, unless you're going to do it yourself! And Esther's not going to do it herself, so she points at the idea of the new house, and as it comes into being, then she points at all kinds of things about the house.

"I'd like that, for the floor. And I would like that for the paint color. And I would like that for the tile, and I would like that, and I would like that one, I would like that, and I would like all of those people who know how to do it, just the way I like it, to come and assist!"

I'm a pointer! I'm a pointer. I'm a pointer: that's what a creator is!
A pointer and a deliberate creator is someone, who continues to point at what you want.

But as humans- and it's all right!!- you've come to sift and sort. And to come to conclusions about what you prefer, in the sifting and sorting process! Often you're pointing at what you don't want. In fact, you usually point at what you don't want, before you get clear about what you do want! But what we've noticed about so many of you is, even though you come into greater clarity about what you do want, as you've been aware of the things that you don't want- so often, and we love you so much!- you continue to point at what you don't want while you talk about what you do want.

You keep noticing how things are.
And what we really want you to hear is, that your life is so full and fantastic! And you have so many facilities in order to observe it! Your physical senses, your hearing and seeing and smelling and tasting and touching- everything that's around you, and that makes you more likely to keep pointing at what you see! But if you are pointing at it, just because it is: "look over there!" (happy voice) -you say, "well, look at that" (cynical, bummed out voice). How often rather than(happy eager voice) "look at that!", you're saying (disgusted voice) "well, look at that!" and you can tell by your own attitude when you're saying "look at that", it might not be something that you really want to point at!

Because you're going to move in the direction of what you point at!

Jerry learned that with Esther. They're driving down the highways, and the big old 45-foot bus with the car behind it, yesterday. Esther did most of the driving, and Jerry would say: "Look at that rainbow!" and then he would notice, that Esther would start moving in the direction! It wasn't long before he learned to only point out things to her that were right ahead!

Because you do move in the direction of what you're pointing at, at what you're looking at!

And so we want you to just pay attention over the next few days especially, at how many things you're pointing at, coming to your experience, in a very very strong way! Because law of attraction is relentless. The law of attraction brings back to you- and fast- what is active in your vibration. Sometimes, something happened in your experience, maybe 20 years ago. And of course you observed it! You were pointing at it, maybe a lot of people were pointing at it. It was something really worth pointing about! It was a big deal in your experience!

But then, that time passed. But you kept pointing at it. Remembered, talked about it... 19 years ago, and 18 years ago, and 17 years ago... talked about it yesterday! Talked about it this morning, in fact! You talk about it:
-Sometimes, because it's entertaining.
-Sometimes, because you overcame something!
-Sometimes because it's interesting! Mostly, because it's entertaining or because it's stuck in your vibrational craw. But MOSTLY,
-because you have forgotten, that what you point at keeps coming with you.

So if there are things that happened 20 years ago, that you want to re-create in today's experience, then by all means, we encourage you to keep pointing at them! And keep pointing them out, and keep talking about them!

But if it's something that you really don't want to be coming up in your experience over and over again- then don't keep updating it!!
Don't keep renewing it!

Esther notices that if she doesn't update her software, pretty soon her machine doesn't work anymore. You've noticed that? -Gotta kind of keep updating, to keep things current! Well, when it regards things that you care about, and things you want to keep being active in your experience, by all means keep updating them! Keep talking about them. Keep them active in your vibration. But if there's something that you've lived, or something that you've observed, that you don't want to be present in your day's experience-

then do your best to take your attention from it which means give your attention to other things:
Decide, that you're going to point toward the things that you really want.

from the youtube clip "‘I am a Pointer’ | You can have it all"



Materialism is the Leading Edge of Alignment!

Abraham Hicks



Spiritual vs material are not the choices.
Everything about this physical, manifestational experience is spiritual.
It is all the end product of Spirit.

- Abraham Hicks



...and a bit about "Selfishness"


Care for Yourself & for your Connection

If we were standing in your physical shoes, that would be our dominant quest:
Entertaining Yourself,
pleasing Yourself,
connecting with Yourself,
being Yourself,
enjoying Yourself,
loving Yourself.

Some say, “Well, Abraham you teach selfishness.”
And we say, yes we do, yes we do, yes we do,
Because unless you are selfish enough to reach for that connection,
you don’t have anything to give anyone, anyway.
And when you are selfish enough to make that connection—
you have an enormous gift that you give everywhere you are.

Excerpted from San Antonio, TX on 4/21/01, Daily Quote – January 19, 2024




We have been accused of teaching selfishness -
As if being aware of self is a negative thing!

It is our knowing that all that you perceive is through the discerning eyes of self,
therefore there is nothing more important than keeping a healthy balance of self.

One who does not feel love for himself has no love to offer another.

One who is not happy can not uplift another to joy.

You simply cannot offer to another that which you do not have.

As you feel, you ooze or radiate outwards. And in your radiation outward you attract unto you - and you offer influence unto the world, indeed, unto the Universe.

- Abraham